16-01-2003 19:26									#31
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You are correct. And yes, your reply was exactly "here, here" . You see, finnish isn't that difficult after all...

	16-01-2003 19:28									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Blwyddyn Newydd dda.

Happy new year to you too.

	16-01-2003 19:32									#33
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Sounds more like bleedin' newyear to me

	16-01-2003 19:34									#34
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I am wondering...in a few years there will be automatic translators pinned to your jacket. You would speak it would translate it automatically to the other person's device etc

Most translators will be out of a job...
But no completely because at official meetings etc they will always be needed

	16-01-2003 19:36									#35
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quote: Originally posted by alva Sounds more like bleedin' newyear to me

Pronounced Blue-ith-thin New-ith Tha.

Try to get Provost Harrison to say that and not give you a shower...

	16-01-2003 20:00									#36
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quote: You have a word for 'leather mouse'...

No, we don't. Nahka = Leather, Hiiri = Mouse.
You can combine words if you want to make a single term in Finnish.
(no, it's NOT as simple as that)

	16-01-2003 20:06									#37
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I heard from somewhere that in Estonian "pakata" means "to wank" and "runkata" means "to pack" - and in Finnish it's the other way around

Any truth to this?

	16-01-2003 20:16									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's And Finnish. Let's not get them started!

We can't let people's wishes down, can we?

Learn to speak Finnish in 3 minutes
How to pronounce Finnish names

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	16-01-2003 20:46									#39
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moi!

	16-01-2003 21:25									#40
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Blue-uth-thin, not Blue-ith-in...

'y' is a bit complicated, but I'm pretty sure that it should be an 'uh' rather than an 'ih' sound...but definitely not an 'ee'...

I think that's right for first syllable...hence:

Cymru is ***-ree.

Edit:
Bloody censorship!

OK...kum-ree...

	16-01-2003 22:13									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's I started a Welsh thread but it got spammed. Languages like Welsh, Gaelic and Basque are apparently growing in popularity, and I might start learning Welsh. You get a pint for going to learn it every Sunday. Slow - Araf Ambulance - Ambiwlans Bridgend - Pen-y-bont Cardiff - Caerdydd No smoking - Dim Ysmygy Football Club - Clwb Pel-droed Do you know a few words of minor language?

Let it die. They don't even have words for modern concepts. Let it fade out with the American Indian languages. Hard enough to learn the major languages. Less languages = better.

	16-01-2003 22:14									#42
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quote: Less languages = better.

Less langueages = Less cultures = Harder to realise cultural blind spots

	16-01-2003 22:16									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Tuomerehu Less langueages = Less cultures = Harder to realise cultural blind spots

= less wars

	16-01-2003 22:18									#44
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"They don't even have words for modern concepts."

Neither did any other language until someone invented them, which is what's happened in Welsh...they've ripped of English. It's not as if English hasn't ripped off other languages to fill voids...

	16-01-2003 22:29									#45
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Welsh borrows so heavily from English it might as well be English.

	16-01-2003 22:47									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin Welsh borrows so heavily from English it might as well be English.

Exactly. BTW, when I visited a Wales, I read a book about it. My favorite quote, "When was Wales?"

	16-01-2003 22:52									#47
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quote: = less wars

= A brave, new world.

	16-01-2003 22:56									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Tuomerehu = A brave, new world.

culture is the enemy. Look at Hitler with all the Alpenwunder.

	16-01-2003 22:57									#49
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Cymru is one of the few words in which a y is pronounced as "uh", from what I can gather.

Witness the number of towns with a word followed by a y followed by another y.

Egs:
Pen-y-Bont
Betws-y-coed
Min-y-mor

And then there is Welshpool's football ground, Maesydre.

Or the Welsh spelling of Cardiff, Caerdydd (pronounced slightly differently, I know one person even when speaking English pronounces it the Welsh way..)

	16-01-2003 22:58									#50
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I'd like to visit Caerphilly castle.

	16-01-2003 22:58									#51
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It always bugs me to see the Celts spell their town names wrong in Civ..

	17-01-2003 00:34									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Cymru is one of the few words in which a y is pronounced as "uh", from what I can gather.

Yes, it does seem to be unusual in that I have noticed...also notice that the first letter can change, like in Welcome to Wales: 'Croeso i Gymru'.

quote: Witness the number of towns with a word followed by a y followed by another y. Egs: Pen-y-Bont Betws-y-coed Min-y-mor And then there is Welshpool's football ground, Maesydre.

Yes, the one problem with Wales when driving through was remembering names to navigate by. Now I can cope well with English names, but Welsh ones just don't stick in my mind (although thank f**k for Welshpool and Newtown although the former is Trallwng in Welsh anyway).

quote: Or the Welsh spelling of Cardiff, Caerdydd (pronounced slightly differently, I know one person even when speaking English pronounces it the Welsh way..)

Yeah, the ae is a bit different and the -dd is a bit like a -th noise...

	17-01-2003 00:55									#53
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quote: Welsh borrows so heavily from English it might as well be English.

Mae Cymraeg ddim yn fenthyg gormod o'r Saesneg, a mae Saesned wedi fenthyg geiriau fel 'pen-gwyn' o'r Gymraeg

	17-01-2003 01:44									#54
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Sir Ralph:

Hungarian has got some astoundingly coarse blasphemies actually. I still balk every time I hear the old ladies in villages repeatedly use "Kurva Isten" (God is a Prostitute) as an everyday interjection. And I'm an atheist.

Boddies: I thought you were opposed to minorities?

	17-01-2003 02:19									#55
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Llanfairpwllgwyngerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogo
ch

	17-01-2003 02:30									#56
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The longest place name in Britain?

	17-01-2003 02:46									#57
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Yeah, although I don't think it is referred to that very often. Hey, if you think it looks funny written down, you want to hear it pronounced

	17-01-2003 03:22									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Buck Birdseed I still balk every time I hear the old ladies in villages repeatedly use "Kurva Isten" (God is a Prostitute) as an everyday interjection.

I have heard this too, very often. Mostly with a third word, IIRC it was "Kurva Isten Fossad". And, of course "Basz meg" (sp?) thrice in every sentence .

	17-01-2003 03:25									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Myrddin Mae Cymraeg ddim yn fenthyg gormod o'r Saesneg, a mae Saesned wedi fenthyg geiriau fel 'pen-gwyn' o'r Gymraeg

Origin of the word penguin.

Might be welsh, but I think its a coincidence.

	17-01-2003 04:12									#60
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Llanfair PG