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here is the actual quote
sends shivers down my arms:Quote 35: "In fact', said Mustapha Mond, 'you're claiming the right to be unhappy.'
'All right then,' said the Savage defiantly, 'I'm claiming the right to be unhappy.'
'Not to mention the right to grow old and ugly and impotent; the right to have syphilis and cancer; the right to have too little to eat; the right to be lousy; the right to live in constant apprehension of what may happen to-morrow; the right to catch typhoid; the right to be tortured by unspeakable pains of every kind.' There was a long silence.
'I claim them all,' said the Savage at last.
Mustapha Mond shrugged his shoulders. 'You're welcome,' he said." Chapter 17, pg. 240
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TCO
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Originally posted by Vesayen
What did I try to do to calm my fears? Religion mostly, though I now am pretty sceptal of it-no I dont think its something "sinister and EEEEVIL" as I see countless pre-teen philosophers post as they make idiots of themsleves:
"Um yah, I dont like going to church, so God sucks and religion must be corrupt!!"
You know the type, they post here constantly, am I the only one who thinks they look like fools-but never says anything? |
No. Newbie. I am the one who puts down the militant 16-year old atheists.
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ANYWAY I dont think religion is evil-I think if its peacefull it does some good(set peoples minds at ease, set mine at ease till I realised it proboably isnt true), I just think without more proof theres no reason to follow it.
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Knowutya mean.
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cavebear
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of the Pleistocene
Oct 1999
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Originally posted by Vesayen
I've always had a fear of death, I dont know if it is any greater then anyone elses, BUT I've had it since I was 5......I was lucky enough to realize my mortality at 5, and yes, days of crying resulted........
Whenever I think about it I feel extremley uncomftorable till I can get my mind off it....
What did I try to do to calm my fears? Religion mostly, though I now am pretty sceptal of it-no I dont think its something "sinister and EEEEVIL" as I see countless pre-teen philosophers post as they make idiots of themsleves:
"Um yah, I dont like going to church, so God sucks and religion must be corrupt!!"
You know the type, they post here constantly, am I the only one who thinks they look like fools-but never says anything?
ANYWAY I dont think religion is evil-I think if its peacefull it does some good(set peoples minds at ease, set mine at ease till I realised it proboably isnt true), I just think without more proof theres no reason to follow it.
Im getting side tracked from my point.
I was always very scared about time ticking away, and knowing one day I will die, and that might be the end of my existance....
I was thinking about death last night, and then thought about a post I made on the boards a while ago, it was something like:
"Would you want to live forever, IF forever REALLY means forever, i.e. after the heat death of the universe and you are the last thing in existance"
The worst possible fait I could think of is not death, but eternal existance.....
Forever isnt just a REALLYYYYY long time, its forever, i.e. never ending(wrap your mind around something it cant be wrapped around heh).
Suppose the Christians are right about the afterlife and God(being Jewish I dont believe that, BUT they have a "happier" afterlife then Jews, which dont really know anything about it, other thent hat its there) which is supposed to be eternal bliss forever(if your good) right?
Well EVENTUALLY you would just get SICK of the "bliss", forever is a HELL of a long time, and eventually you would just get sick of your existance, but have no way to end it.......you would then have an eternity of existence, of sensory perceptions which you desperatly want to end, but no way to do it....
What is worse then what amounts to self-inflicted psychological torture, FOREVER?
Suddenly im not so scared worried about there not being an afterlife, because the alternative(non existance) seems preferable to a painfull existance which never ends.
And if God does exist, mabey I was all wrong and the afterlife is good, but since I have no proof God exist, my mind is at ease. |
WOW!
Look, all evidence (and reason) suggests that this life on Earth is the only trip you get, that the end of mortal life is the end of existence, and that awareness of anything ceases at the moment of Earthly death.
So don't live in either hope or fear of "the next world", it isn't going to happen. Calm down, relax, and work to make this existence one worth living.
Compete where competition challenges your abilities, cooperate where cooperation improves conditions of yourself and others, learn new things where the knowledge can give the next generations a better life, and be introspective when your internal thoughts can make life more understandable.
Life isn't a test and it isn't a goal. It is an experience based on birth into a physical existance.
Smell the flowers, enjoy the foods, taste the wine, do good by one's neighbors and friends, care for your family, die knowing that conciousness is a rare opportunity and that you enjoyed it.
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Vesayen
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Nah...it's time registered. |
So you being registered on a forum longer gives your opinions of death more validity then mine? Im confused.
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Vesayen
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That's ok. Just pay attention to your elders. We'll get you squared away. |
Why dont you step into this pretty refrigerator shaped box labled "Soilet Green Producer" ontop, there will be free prunes inside, and bingo!
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