31-01-2003 22:34									#31
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That's a bit rich coming from Mandela, the ****ing murderer.

	31-01-2003 23:15									#32
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The latest words from Mandela really make Bush bashers sound like a bunch of loonies. Some of them are I think.

	31-01-2003 23:18									#33
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Hmm... I wonder... when the US media picks the Mandela as a "bad guy"?

	31-01-2003 23:26									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Tuomerehu Hmm... I wonder... when the US media picks the Mandela as a "bad guy"?

Mandela isn't a bad guy. He's more like the crazy uncle we shove in the basement.

	01-02-2003 00:26									#35
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When I read Nelson Mandela's comments Thursday, I had to read it twice, to make sure it was properly quoted. Unfortunately, it was, and my respect for Mandela has dropped markedly.

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(Edit: Changed Wednesday to Thursday — I can't predict the future )

	01-02-2003 00:30									#36
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Charles de Gaulle : La vieillesse est un naufrage.
" Old age is like a shipwreck... " doesn't translate very well.

	01-02-2003 01:29									#37
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everything he said stands, so whats the panic for?

apart from that black man in the UN? makes no sence really


he also said that Blair is the US foreign minister

	01-02-2003 02:02									#38
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My take.

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	01-02-2003 06:13									#39
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I think there are better choices than Belefonte for the third position...

	01-02-2003 06:19									#40
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Ol Harry still has his blood feud going with Powell, I take it?

	01-02-2003 07:24									#41
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk I think there are better choices than Belefonte for the third position...

How 'bout this guy?

	01-02-2003 07:31									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper Ol Harry still has his blood feud going with Powell, I take it?

I included Belafonte because the remarks he made against Powell a while back, I think, ultimately reflected his disgust with Bush Administration policies. The guy he's really upset with is President Bush IMO.

	01-02-2003 07:48									#43
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As someone who has respected Nelson Mandela's efforts to correct his country's racial conflicts, I am profoundly disappointed to see such ignorance of the cause of conflict between the the US and Iraq on his part.

It's not about oil, it is not about disrespecting Koffe Anan because he is African, it is not about religion.

It's about a sadistic tyrant supressing a people that we *can* get at. Today Saddam, tomorrow, maybe the next available butcher-tyrant.

My view is that the UN ought to make it a point of actively engaging and removing tyrants around the world, by any means possible. That's what I think the purpose of the UN is, and that is what they *ought* to be doing as a matter of course.

	01-02-2003 07:51									#44
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quote: Originally posted by cavebear My view is that the UN ought to make it a point of actively engaging and removing tyrants around the world, by any means possible. That's what I think the purpose of the UN is, and that is what they *ought* to be doing as a matter of course.

The big problem I have with that idea is: who decides what a tyrant is?

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And, of course, who decides who replaces them?

	01-02-2003 09:27									#46
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Well, give the UN a chance to establish a new government since it is supposed to be omniscient (unlike the US).

	01-02-2003 09:49									#47
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Problem is, I think the tyrant have more votes in the UN.

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quote: Originally posted by Jules How 'bout this guy?

Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of this one...

	01-02-2003 10:21									#49
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Even though Mandela is probably off his rocker, I think he's more credible than Bush any day.

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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 everything he said stands, so whats the panic for?

So you agree that Iraq provides 64% of the world's oil? Wtf?

	02-02-2003 00:57									#51
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No respect for this man. His ass should of stayed in jail. He did nothing for SA. His only accomplishment was protesting against aparthied. Oh wow...big deal. I can think of others that did also.



Anyway. This just blatantly exposes that retards ignorance on world affairs. Last I heard Iraq supplied 2% of the worlds oil. Jeesh. People call bush stupid.

	02-02-2003 01:08									#52
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United Nations Secretary-General:

Under the Charter, the Secretary-General is appointed by the General Assembly upon the recommendation of the Security Council. Mr. Annan's predecessors as Secretary-General were: Boutros Boutros-Ghali (Egypt), who held office from January 1992 to December 1996; Javier PÈrez de CuÈllar (Peru), who served from January 1982 to December 1991; Kurt Waldheim (Austria), who held office from January 1972 to December 1981; U Thant (Burma, now Myanmar), who served from November 1961, when he was appointed acting Secretary-General (he was formally appointed Secretary-General in November 1962) to December 1971; Dag Hammarskjˆld (Sweden), who served from April 1953 until his death in a plane crash in Africa in September 1961; and Trygve Lie (Norway), who held office from February 1946 to his resignation in November 1952.

	02-02-2003 01:16									#53
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Nelson Mandala played a very important part in freeing his country from apartheid. And he is not a stupid person. This recent statement surprised me though, and I was very disappointed to read it in the newspaper.

If it was for political purposes, it was shameful. If it is what he really believes, that is even sadder. I suppose it just goes to show that a person you respect for one reason may have beliefs in other subjects that are completely contrary to what you think. So sad...

	02-02-2003 09:31									#54
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I always liked the man...

	02-02-2003 09:41									#55
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Darius, Iraq is the 2nd largest country in the world of oil reserves.

I agree with what he said about the holocaust in Iraq (and blair being the foreign minister of the US)

	02-02-2003 10:01									#56
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quote: a president who has no foresight, who cannot think properly

That much is correct. As far as I can tell, Bush doesn't have a clear, logical thought in his head.

	02-02-2003 10:09									#57
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He only got on TV and showed the world that he's getting senile. He's still a good guy. Give him a break.