14-02-2003 03:11									#31
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What a friggin liar.

	14-02-2003 05:25									#32
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quote: I have heard the performance goes up, if you stop the day/night cycle (= Having it to be 'day' all the time)... have you tried that?

Nighttime irritated me so I turned it off about five minutes into my first city. I've only ever turned it back on to take screenshots.

I've played it a few times since, but only with the small town zones. I can fill those up and not have any real slow downs, though playing fire department dispatcher REALLY gets old.

	18-02-2003 17:54									#33
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You might want to read this thread:

http://www.simcitycentral.net/forum...r=asc&highlight

It's about the discussion some people had with Maxis, about the future of SimCity 4...

	20-02-2003 04:34									#34
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its ok.. just kinda boreing for me.. i keep wanting to build tanks and invade my neighbors which in turn drags me back to playing civ..

	20-02-2003 13:52									#35
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You get a lot of fires? I've had no problems since getting fire coverage up. Smoke detector ordinance seems to make a big difference, especially if you can't afford 100% cover.

	23-02-2003 08:30									#36
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I voted its ok. It's no fun for me though just because I can't get started. I start out ok, then I run out of money

The graphics are very good though I thought....you can even zoom in far enough to see the oranges on the orange trees! (that impressed me )

	23-02-2003 09:30									#37
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It's one of the most boring games I've ever had the misfortune to play.

	23-02-2003 09:33									#38
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I am sure I am not buying this game. It is just more of the same, with improved graphics, weather model, and a little more difficult. Nothing really new. SO I am not buying it.

	23-02-2003 15:58									#39
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Nothing really new? If you have read just one review, you'll see everything is new... it's not just some improved graphics. The gameplay has changed a lot also... and it's not just a little more diffecult, it's a lot more diffecult...

Asher >> Let me guess: You didn't like any previously SimCity games, did you?

Jahi >> If you're a warmonger, then why buy a peaceful game?

	23-02-2003 19:35									#40
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Of corse there is a lot of new stuff, but it is still the basic game under it all, and I know it will not give me that much enjoyment. If I can find a store were i can return the game if I dont like it maybe i will buy it and try it out, but i dont think that will happen.

	23-02-2003 19:53									#41
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Of course it's still the basic game under. If Maxis changed the game into a wargame, it's not a SimCity game... what did you expect?

	23-02-2003 22:45									#42
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I posted a complain thread in Simcity4.com BBS and it gotten deleted

My system is a P700 128RAM and getting headaches all the time

	24-02-2003 01:31									#43
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quote: Originally posted by ADG Of course it's still the basic game under. If Maxis changed the game into a wargame, it's not a SimCity game... what did you expect?

I did not expect them to change it. I am just kind of sick of Sim City games that is all. You are not so you like it and new stuff is enough for you.

	24-02-2003 02:45									#44
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quote: Originally posted by ADG Asher >> Let me guess: You didn't like any previously SimCity games, did you?

Loved SimCity Classic.
2K, 3K, and 4 are all very

	24-02-2003 03:57									#45
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One thing to notice: Simcity4 music rulz

	24-02-2003 06:21									#46
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What are some of the improved features of SC4???

	24-02-2003 09:17									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Odin What are some of the improved features of SC4???

New, improved CTDs

	25-02-2003 00:47									#48
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What's the logic in water pipes crashing down every 2 months??? WTF!

	25-02-2003 01:02									#49
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Water pipes crashing down? Never experienced this!!! Did you turn down the funding?

	25-02-2003 01:51									#50
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Hmm maybe that's the reason

But a "disaster" warning and a game stop every time it happens is really stupid

	25-02-2003 14:27									#51
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If a part of town is left without water, it might fast get abondoned, so it's a good idea that it pauses the game (Think about it, if you had set the game speed to fastest, the houses will get abondoned before you even notice it...)

	28-02-2003 04:32									#52
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Again- all my trade deals just shut down all of sudden, leaving one city with 0 income as it cannot sell water, and another city quite-abandoned, as cannot buy damn water
Damn Simcity

	28-02-2003 14:38									#53
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If you don't have enough money to keep the deal going for at least a year, the deal is canceled...

	01-03-2003 01:38									#54
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Here's some information about the next patch (yet to be released... more things are still in the works, before they'll release it):

quote: * Increased RCI Demand Max (allowing the largest structures to build easier) This is better known as the Stage 8 bug * Fixed airport queries to report efficiency * Fixed landfills to combine easier if drawn adjacent to each other. Still problematical if drawn between two landfills, so add them one at a time. * Traffic optimizations in looking for destinations (no longer counts same entry as valid destination, speed improvements in searching) * Neighbor deal fixes (escalating rates, canceling during suspension, canceling during obliteration) * Fix for fires starting with missile silo while game was paused, also should help stop fires starting from other special effects while game is paused * Fix for powerline occupant leaks which were causing corruption to saved games and possible crashes * Tax fields in budget can now be entered directly in addition to using the spinners * Enabled the commercial rewards: convention center & stock market to show up in commercial only cities * Dispatch fixes for when graphics settings are altered between saves * Fixed broken links to budget in multi-neighbor deal messages * Fixed cost escalation to network tiles after drawing bridges/tunnels * Changed view switching for underground so that it only goes there upon selecting the pipe tool (thus, reducing the amount of art swaps which are a bit slow) * Fixes for automata (less getting stuck in intersections, better synching of lights, better stopping for trains) * Auto zoom change toggle (helps reduce zoom changing in larger cities) * Added support for crash report generator (if the user has such an applet present) * Control-Alt-S does quick save (no thumbnail update so its quite a bit faster for those large cities) * Control-Alt-Shift-X also brings up cheat panel as stated in the strategy guide * Lowered 'hotspot' effect for fires, should result in less fires breaking out * Lowered frequency of busses in large cities * Fixed Life Expectancy bug that would cause values to drop to zero * Fixed commuting bugs related to highways and double counting on subways * Fixed twitching for left hand turning vehicles * Fixed graph (jobs & population) with multiple occupants types to toggle each type or hover query * Fixed art for the heavy truck (industrial prop) rendered with 8 bit alpha instead of 1 bit giving it a large blocky black background * Fixed neighbor deal status on rail query * Added garbage from neighbor deals to garbage graph * Fixed Highway connections for neighboring cities * Fix for airports and seaports initially showing up distressed * Incorporated a check to determine if anti-alising should be enabled or not depending upon the hardware configuration * Alphabetized region names in the UI * Fix for bad lot texture on a high wealth residential buildings and a with wealth commercial building * Fix for a connection-related Neighbor Deal bug with water * Change neighbor deal to allow deals to continue for a short period of time even if the buying city runs out of money. This fixes the "neighbor deal cancelled to quickly" issue. * Add a desirability threshold to prevent abandonment if lots have high desirability

	01-03-2003 01:45									#55
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It seems they are not going to revert the industrial "fix".

	01-03-2003 01:46									#56
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I had hoped for the same thing

	28-03-2003 20:24									#57
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If you're tired of the fact, there wasn't any map generator included, you might want to read this:

http://simcity.ea.com/bbs/messages....=261&startRow=1

This is a tool, that creates maps based on real US locations... don't know if it works though... I haven't tried it, and don't think I ever will... Just wanted to let you all know

	29-03-2003 04:53									#58
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I'm being slow again. Glad to see the age bug fix, but what is the industry "fix" you refer to?

	29-03-2003 16:30									#59
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In the first patch, they changed Industry, so they needed road next to each building (Like Res/Com buildings)... pretty annoying I'd say...

	29-03-2003 18:13									#60
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I voted it to be okay. I like the game, but it is incredibly hard, and some of the feelig from the previous games has disappeared.

I have begun to finally get one of my cities to go in surplus, but it took some weeks, several searches on the net and a strategy guide to do so. I now get little surplus, but it's not so much that I can build much more infrastructure than now(and I really need it!). Anyhow, I begin to like the game more and more!