12-02-2003 22:55									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tribune It will need another 7 patches and 9 months. Use EU I as a yardstick.

Do ALL the functions of EU 1 work after 7 patchs?
(i don't own EU 1)

	13-02-2003 00:33									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Ozz In a fanboy forum the 2 would have been censored/banned by a mod by now.

Yeah-yeah... Sure...

	13-02-2003 00:38									#33
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Don't let him get to you Havey, he's just like that.

	13-02-2003 01:11									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Trip Don't let him get to you Havey, he's just like that.

Oh - Rest assured. I have no intention of discussing this topic any further....

	13-02-2003 01:15									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Ozz Do ALL the functions of EU 1 work after 7 patchs? (i don't own EU 1)

10 patches. I said 'another 7'.

But yes, after 10 patches, as far as I remember, most features worked as intended.

	13-02-2003 01:43									#36
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I did not know that i could get banned for asking for info on a crack.

I am sorry.


No copyright protection you said?

Are you certain?

	13-02-2003 03:05									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Trip Don't let him get to you Havey, he's just like that.

Yeah, I got a programming job, so I'm not sucking up
to Paradox for some crumbs. Fanboy

	13-02-2003 03:08									#38
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Come come now, you have too much pent-up anger, you need to let it all go.

	13-02-2003 03:10									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tribune But yes, after 10 patches, as far as I remember, most features worked as intended.

MOST OF THE FEATURES WORKED!!
after 10 !!! Must be a record settler!

Did the boys rip paradox for it? Did the Fanboys
(employees) try and drop the cone of silence.

	13-02-2003 03:44									#40
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Would this game be for sale at BestBuy or a store like it?

	13-02-2003 08:01									#41
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As I recall, after 1.09 the game worked fine. But 1.10 had some bugs, don't know if they were fixed.

	13-02-2003 20:01									#42
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I did not know that i could get banned for asking for info on a crack.

Don't worry too much about it.

Did the [troll] boys rip paradox for it? Did the Fanboys
(employees) try and drop the cone of silence.

No, the troll boys didn't really arrive on the scene until EU2.

Would this game be for sale at BestBuy or a store like it?

Hearts of Iron should still be on sale. EU2 might not be.

	13-02-2003 20:17									#43
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo No, the troll boys didn't really arrive on the scene until EU2.

Troll? Troll? Just unpleasant facts. Yer still making sales
re: BigFree, but at least he/she knows the score..now.
And that is what the boys are about, they wouldn't find out from fanboys .

Troll boys: Too bad paradox gave them soooo.... much ammuntion eh. EU1 - 10 patchs, I'm still laughing at that one.

	14-02-2003 03:31									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Ozz EU1 - 10 patchs, I'm still laughing at that one.

Well, with Paradox, 1.00 is more like an Alpha build. Not really playable, yet, though some of the features can be viewed already.

1.03, where HoI currently is, is a decent Beta. From here the playtesting can start for serious, and we get some glimpse of the general direction of the gameīs development.

But donīt expect advanced features like an ai or something before 1.05. With further testing and additional 6 months of development, 1.06 will then come close to pose a challenge, sort of. But at least one major feature will still be broken, this is tradition. Has to do with some Swedish superstition, completely finishing a game means 7 years of bad luck or so.

	14-02-2003 05:21									#45
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But donīt expect advanced features like an ai or something before 1.05. With further testing and additional 6 months of development, 1.06 will then come close to pose a challenge, sort of. But at least one major feature will still be broken, this is tradition. Has to do with some Swedish superstition, completely finishing a game means 7 years of bad luck or so.

If you have a problem with this, go play a Blizzard game. You won't be able to complain of lacking features because they never planned to add them in the first place and are not going to add anything worthwhile in the patches.

Total Annihilation had a better interface than WarCraft 3 in Cthulhueaten 1997. Warlords Battlecry had real heroes 2 years before WarCraft was released with a poor imitation.

I'm not even going to mention the near lack of units in WarCraft 3 (or StarCrap for that matter).

Did I just go off on a rant there?

	14-02-2003 10:21									#46
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo Did I just go off on a rant there?

I believe that may be just about the closest you've ever come to it.

I'm still learning EU2 so I can't really judge the quality of the AI yet but HoI seems much much better with 1.03. Navies can fight, Germany attacks fortresses and doesn't need US assistance to beat the French and the AI throws some unexpectedly good moves at you every once in a while. Or maybe I just suck.
In any case, right now I rather enjoy it and there's no reason whatsoever to think that Paradox will stop there.

	14-02-2003 10:22									#47
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo Did I just go off on a rant there?

A bit, but I can understand your desire to run a positive
forum, and having my posts here have not been positive.

So I'm give credit were credit is due. The HOI game does have ALOT of potential. It is better than Axis &
Allies for example, but it needs alot more work done.

The EU2 1.05 game is a lot of fun at the start as long as you known what the bugs are. I personally don't finish once the WC is a forgone conclusion.

	15-02-2003 04:51									#48
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I personally don't finish once the WC is a forgone conclusion.

I've never really went for WC. I like to keep my BB minimal and expand in a semi-realistic way.

	15-02-2003 21:49									#49
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo Did I just go off on a rant there?

You did.

(Though I donīt quite get your point? Did I ever in my life defend Blizzard or any other RTS? (except Galactic Battlegrounds, which is decent.) But where does the crappiness of most RTSs excuse HoIīs many shortcomings? HoI would be a better game, had they made it a TBS in the first place. )

	16-02-2003 00:41									#50
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HoI would be a better game, had they made it a TBS in the first place. )

I disagree. The RTS aspects works very well for synchronised attacks and unit movement in general. HoI would have been a better game if it wasn't about WW2.

	16-02-2003 03:20									#51
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo HoI would have been a better game if it wasn't about WW2.

Canīt really disagree. The EU engine was not quite made to simulate WWII.

	17-02-2003 00:05									#52
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo I personally don't finish once the WC is a forgone conclusion. I've never really went for WC. I like to keep my BB minimal and expand in a semi-realistic way.

I try and do that too. But the tempation is too great.