20-02-2003 03:23									#31
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quote: Originally posted by monkspider Good question Warp. However, are you talking about two geographically or culturally similar civs, such as France and Germany, or two civs with similar attributes?

I was just thinking about the attributes, but the geography and culture would be good to know also.

If as the Incas, the Mayas will usually be next door, I'd need to know the differences in play style.

	20-02-2003 21:16									#32
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yeah it does look like Civ3 +PTW has better civs then RON, but that does not worry me that much. I still think RON will be better. Besides they can add them latter as an expansion pack.

	25-02-2003 22:24									#33
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RoN doesn't have to do much to be better than Civ3. Civ2:ToT is better than Civ 3.

	26-02-2003 03:18									#34
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quote: Originally posted by WarpStorm I was just thinking about the attributes, but the geography and culture would be good to know also. If as the Incas, the Mayas will usually be next door, I'd need to know the differences in play style.

You know, I never really liked the 'cultural linked starts' of Civ 3.

You start off next to a Civ that is supposed to be somewhat amiable to your Civ; but before you know it, you at at WAR with them! You are more than likely to go to war with your neighbor (expecially up to and including the middle ages) than anyone else, including those Civ's which are supposed to have disdain for your culture.

I hope RON doesn't do the same thing; fighting the same 'ol wars against the same 'ol Civ's.

I know you can turn it off in Civ 3 (I do!), I hope if it IS included with RON, that there too, will be an option to turn it off.

	26-02-2003 04:59									#35
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It's a shame they didn'n included Arabs, one of the most mighty civilizations in history.

	27-02-2003 01:23									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Abdul-Aziz It's a shame they didn'n included Arabs, one of the most mighty civilizations in history.

Arabs, Indians, Persians, Vikings, and Americans have been repeatedly requested by fans. It would be hard to believe BHG hasn't noticed...

Here's what Graham Somers (BHG's Community Relations Manager) had to say about India:

quote: Thunder, 24 Oct 02, RoN Heaven You better add India to the list of civilizations on the list...I can't tell you how many times people have mentioned, asked about, or demanded that we include that civ. Why aren't they in the game? Mainly, their distinctive architecture would have required another unique set of buildings to be created. Originally we were supposed to have 16 nations and we've stretched that a bit as it is. Perhaps down the road...

	27-02-2003 06:41									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus I couldn't agree more. In fact, I made those same points myself in this very forum a few months ago. However, I don't know ANY game which represents Africa better than RoN is doing, so you don't hear me complaining (too much )...

I have to third that, after researching for the HG:Nation of the Week article. I have to say the Nubian culture almost mirrors that of Egypt, and somewhat redundant if you want a diversity of gameplay.

I personally would have like to have seen them use Pheonician/Carthage for a 3rd african civ, which they could kind work into Morroco for the later ages. It would be geographically diversified too. North West Africa vs North East for egypt, central/south for Bantu.

On the other hand, if they have an expack, Nubia could be an additional civ that can get elephants as a unit

	27-02-2003 10:15									#38
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Is there a preference that the player starts next to a nation from the same geographical region?

	12-03-2003 18:01									#39
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Does anyone know how dipllomacy is implemented, because I can't recall any other RTS game with decent diplomacy and I think that will be the biggest diff. between CivIII and RoN.

	12-03-2003 19:10									#40
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Guys, if you see missing civs, they might have been left out on purpose for an ex-pack. You can't balanced 26 civs in one try here, they want to get this game done by the release date so they had to stick with 18 (which is a LOT for an RTS game IMHO) and i'm guessing they will add 90% of the civs being requested in an ex-pack.

But to add a civ you also need UNIQUE atributes remember. You can't just add every civ in history if some would basically have the same advantages. You want to give each a unique feel, which probably would mean certain civs don't get in because they arn't unique enough.