21-02-2003 11:24									#91
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You guys know more about this than me, so don't count my vote

	21-02-2003 11:28									#92
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker You guys know more about this than me, so don't count my vote

nah I just have a lot of disatrous experience with my hallmates about fantasy leagues. In our first league we made mistake of making waiver period 2 day and roster change daily. EVERY 3AM in the morning, people lined up on my laptop fighting to pick up Free agents that would start a game next day. (because we accidentally set up point sys so that as long as you dont get too much negative stat points aka negative points, you always come out positive)

People had all 4 starting position going everyday and racked up thousands of points rapidly and people who didnt do this cheap trick fell behind QUICKLY.

	21-02-2003 11:28									#93
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quote: Players like Luis Castillo and Juan Pierre is overshadowed by meager player who can hit 20+ homers instead.

Well the 20 homer guys have to be able to hit for average too .

Oh, and in just about EVERY fantasy league, Batista was a better pickup than Castillo or Pierre.

	21-02-2003 11:29									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: Players like Luis Castillo and Juan Pierre is overshadowed by meager player who can hit 20+ homers instead. Well the 20 homer guys have to be able to hit for average too . Oh, and in just about EVERY fantasy league, Batista was a better pickup than Castillo or Pierre.

not if you play Roto or maybe HtH, what if you need SB?

	21-02-2003 11:31									#95
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Well in HtH, you can always say, screw SB, take the loss and focus on average and homers and say I'll win if I do this.

Then again, we'll have to wait for the rest of the crew to wake up and discuss this. Personally, I'll go for any one.

	21-02-2003 11:34									#96
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defintely... we need to discuss this with everyone. But personally, I think You need to pay attention to ALL stats the most in Roto. Cause if you just say "screw SB" then you'll fall bottom on that stat and you'll get virtually no point in it. But if you give at least little consideration while concentrating on other stats... it makes big difference.

I just like Roto the best, but we'll see what other people prefer. According to my personal experience, if you dont want an exploitable league games... avoid Point based league.

	21-02-2003 11:38									#97
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quote: Cause if you just say "screw SB" then you'll fall bottom on that stat and you'll get virtually no point in it.

But if it is H-2-H, then it won't hurt you as much . It doesn't matter if you are on the bottom of that stat if you keep on winning games.

	21-02-2003 18:35									#98
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Hoorah! Totally Nowhere has arrived. Thanks for upping the number of teams, Imran!

Either method of play is fine with me.

Also, I used my Yahoo mail address to sign up, but I hardly ever check that mailbox. Either PM me here or use the email in my poly profile if any of you ever need to reach me.

	21-02-2003 22:43									#99
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I joined up. The H2H might be worth a look. It would be better if it was based on FP but I think I can work with it.

	21-02-2003 23:03									#100
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Only bad thing about H2H is that even though you have a crappy but team that inputs a decent SBs lets say, it doesnt matter if you dont win that week. Since its done week by week. You might then say screw it and not even pay attention to SBs. In roto, it all adds up so if you neglect SBs, you may lose 11 points (last place gets 1 point i think) where if you even took small consideration in SB you could be earning extra 3-4 points etc.

Only thing I like in H2H is that they reward players for consitency. But they dont help you much if your player was in HR hitting hotstreak and you beat your opponent in HR category by three times the amount.

	21-02-2003 23:11									#101
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The league is full, looks like I will miss the poly league this year.

First time in two years.

	21-02-2003 23:15									#102
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Head to Head keeps people in it longer, so you don't have people dropping out a month into the season. If you have a TERRIBLE week, you only lose one game. But if you have a few terrible weeks early, it's tough to catch up in a points league.

The biggest problem we have had is people lossing interest early. It takes all the fun out of it when half the teams are no longer active. At least H to H keeps the wimps around longer

	22-02-2003 00:41									#103
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Lets do H2H. And when are we gonna draft?

	22-02-2003 00:44									#104
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quote: Originally posted by Chris 62 The league is full, looks like I will miss the poly league this year. First time in two years.

WTF Imran... didn't you contact the loyal hardcores by PM first to give them a chance before you opened it up to the masses. At least you know Chris would play till the bitter end, even if he was getting his ass kicked... which would be typical

IMRAN

	22-02-2003 00:48									#105
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Typical? Ha!

The Slackers walloped the Mingers last year.

Yeah Imran, what's the deal?

You could have let me know, or saved a spot for the vets.

	22-02-2003 00:54									#106
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You surely aren't talking about Football, the last league we were in together

	22-02-2003 01:11									#107
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Baseball.

I came in DEAD LAST in football.

The Slackers live up to their name on the gridiron, on the diamond, THAT is another story.

	22-02-2003 02:12									#108
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How about our own forum ming?

	22-02-2003 03:59									#109
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GO Weasels!

WIth this draft stuff, do you usually end up with like 2 good players and everyone else is mediocre?

	22-02-2003 04:02									#110
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I only count 11 teams... not a full house.

Can we please have a couple days notice prior to the draft. I have to juggle work and a wife and three kids... it's hard to keep them all up in the air at once.

	22-02-2003 04:03									#111
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The draft will probably take weeks... and run as a thread here. With people getting a specific amount of time to make their pick, and if they don't, other people will continue and they can draft when they can...

Right Imran?

	22-02-2003 04:03									#112
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Stuie, no prob... we'll have a couple days... but it'll be a SLOW draft... so on a Poly Thread, not on ICQ or something.

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	22-02-2003 04:05									#113
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Mingapulco Spammers - assuming I can correct my account problems with Yahoo... otherwise you can throw me out and I can register with a new ID

	22-02-2003 04:05									#114
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Here - Weasels.

	22-02-2003 04:06									#115
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Thanks! Just wanted to make sure. My wife is especially hard to keep up in the air when... what's that honey!? Oops... gotta go....

Oh, HERE!! Totally Nowhere. ( is that an oxymoron? )

	22-02-2003 04:39									#116
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Old Indian Sexstones here.

	22-02-2003 04:49									#117
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Vlad Antlerkov, Lions Rampant

	22-02-2003 05:12									#118
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Lets start this draft on sat. Everyone has 48 hours to submit their picks. The order will de random. Imran can put names in a hat and draw. The last person to pick the first round picks first in the second round.

how does that sound?

	22-02-2003 05:16									#119
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I'd rather have 24 hours to submit picks, LoA. So we don't have to wait 2 days for some joe to pick in the middle of the draft .

I'll do names in a hat and draw... but I say start on Monday instead. Give a few days for roll call and finishing up the league and rules discussion, etc.

	22-02-2003 08:32									#120
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Just plain Vlad-BC Evil Bears
Looks like there is still room for Chris since we only have 11, we need him so I can have my revenge from last years Sandbox :-)
I am definately for H2H system, gotta keep people active, even if 1 drops it takes the fun out of the game and out of bragging rights.