04-03-2003 03:47									#301
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Lions Rampant-- Scott Rolen

	04-03-2003 04:12									#302
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Not even the computer would be stupid enough to pick a 4th outfielder at this point... what are you going to do, keep picking outfielders if it says too... This isn't right...

	04-03-2003 04:15									#303
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Chris (through PM) told me he wants - Bret Boone

That means Peacemaker is up.

	04-03-2003 04:18									#304
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I shoked we are finally making progress.

	04-03-2003 04:18									#305
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stupid anaheim

i'm going to send imran a list

	04-03-2003 04:24									#306
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That would be lovely .

Anaheim?

Vlad is now up!

	04-03-2003 04:33									#307
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Hey Imran... let caesar sub somebody for Anderson... give him a break. Picking a 4th outfielder is crap... and even the computer wouldn't have done that.

	04-03-2003 04:37									#308
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If others agree, I'd be amenable to that.

If I can get 2 other people for (not including me), it'll be done.

	04-03-2003 04:38									#309
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What, you want to drive him away for good?

He's here... let him make his damn pick. You have all been so quick to take his other picks away. Again, not even the computer would have made that pick for him.

Be reasonable.

	04-03-2003 04:43									#310
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Yes, but others agreed...

He said he wants to continue... and he's one vote. All I'm asking for is 1 more person to say yes, he can pick someone else.

I mean some people might be mad for us even thinking about this course of action, but if 2 people (including Caesar) say that he should be able to substitute his pick, then he should do it.

Remember, when we took away his pick it was done by consent of 6 players.

	04-03-2003 04:44									#311
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If you don't, you can count me out... How about that for a vote.

	04-03-2003 04:46									#312
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Sure, let him sub for Anderson if he wants. I need a good outfielder. Caesar, you there?

	04-03-2003 04:48									#313
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Ming, what should we do if a person doesn't submit a list via PM and isn't around for 3 days to make picks? I think we are doing what is reasonable given the situation.

	04-03-2003 04:48									#314
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Remember, when we took away his pick it was done by consent of 6 players.

Ask those 6 players if they think it's fair that he gets stuck with a fourth outfielder this early in the draft.
If you are just going to steal his pick away, at least give him something that the computer would and not a damn extra outfielder

	04-03-2003 04:49									#315
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Stop being pissy Ming... I was being all reasonable and then you have to come with your whining power trips.

What, you think 2 people (1 excluding Caesar) is hard? And then you while about my 'arbitrary' use of power in other places.

	04-03-2003 04:50									#316
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Being "reasonable" is not cramming a player down his throat that not even the computer would stick him with.

What is your goal... to have a dead team before the draft is even over with?

	04-03-2003 04:53									#317
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quote: Ask those 6 players if they think it's fair that he gets stuck with a fourth outfielder this early in the draft.

Um... isn't that EXACTLY what I'm doing?!

Only difference is that I'm only asking 4 people (you, me, and 2 others).

And it ain't like he can't START ALL FOUR OUTFIELDERS!

Get off your high horse, Ming. Many other commish's would not be nearly as accomodating to Caesar's plight.

As soon as he comes her and says, I want to pick another player, it happens, because Berz has said it is ok.

	04-03-2003 04:55									#318
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Btw, he gave me a PM right after he posted on this thread to say he's still around with players in case he misses anymore picks.

His FIRST CHOICE is ANOTHER OF!

	04-03-2003 04:56									#319
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But why did you cram a fourth outfielder down his throat in the first place. What kind of crap was that.

"the old highest ranked player line" doesn't cut it.

A little common sense would have been nice.

If you are going to continue to change the rules on the fly, at least be logical about it...

	04-03-2003 04:57									#320
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Vlad and Ming, you want to wait till Caesar makes a sub before picking?

	04-03-2003 04:58									#321
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If he want's to make that pick... that's his problem. For you to do it to him is criminal at best.

	04-03-2003 04:58									#322
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The rules since the beginning where the 'highest ranked player' on Yahoo is picked if you miss your pick. We did it for the first pick (for jdd) and continued on.

How do you suggest we do common sense? I pick whoever I want him to have? How is that not allowing me to pick his team for him?

	04-03-2003 05:00									#323
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Your method will end up with a team that won't even be able to field a team... That makes tons of sense... Even the computer is smart enough to switch to a new position... and the computer is pretty stupid...

And the rules from the beginning were 24 hours to make a pick... but that's changed already...

	04-03-2003 05:01									#324
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So what was his pick Imran?

	04-03-2003 05:03									#325
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Well the person he picked was for if he missed another pick.

At the very least, I want him to come here and say if he really wants to make that pick for Anderson, or someone else.

	04-03-2003 05:05									#326
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Hell, I need outfielders, I'll trade for one of his. I'll be back in an hour to pick. Imran says he has Caesar's sub for Anderson so that means Vlad, then Ming, and then I get 2 picks. YIPPIE! Now stop reading my mind Ming!

Garret Anderson, I assume, is still available?

	04-03-2003 05:06									#327
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Oops, back to waiting on Caesar.

	04-03-2003 05:07									#328
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Berz: not until Caesar says so. If he says he wants a new player, I'll give it to him.

If we go the Ming route and pick another player for him (since it is 'criminal' to give him 4 OFs, which, btw, can start for him at the same time), we'll have to decide which player to pick for Caesar instead of Anderson.

	04-03-2003 05:09									#329
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It's real easy Imran... Pick the highest ranked player... that isn't in a postion that's filled already. Saving Utility players for last and Bench Players can be the highest rated available. Not any additional work, and doesn't require anybody to make a decision for somebody else.
And the person will end up with a team that can be played without major changes...

What do you think?

	04-03-2003 05:13									#330
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Fine...

Then the Noobies have Rob Nenn instead of Garret Anderson.

Berz, you can pick him to your heart's delight now.

And Caesar can still replace the pick if he wants.