01-03-2003 23:39									#31
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Afghanistan is going to be the site of an oil pipeline that carries oil from the Caspian sea to the port of Karachi.

Dissident, drop the stereotypes about "anti-war types". I'm against the war because of Bush, mainly. I don't trust him as a commander-in-chief, I don't trust how he's going to spend the money he gets for war, I don't trust his motives, or his vision for a post-Saddam Iraq. Without Iraq, his presidency is nothing but a sh1tty economy and tax cuts to the rich. This isn't about liberation, this isn't about curbing terror. It's about Bush vs Saddam. And personally, I don't feel American lives(and Iraqi lives) and 100 billion dollars are worth his little ego trip.

I can't speak for all people opposed to the war, but we definitely don't all have the same reasons for being against it. And stereotypes are ignorant; you're much better than that, Diss.

	02-03-2003 08:53									#32
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quote: Originally posted by oliverfa Only Superman can fight all the bad guys at once. If the US manage to use some of the more moderate "bad guys" against the worst ones that's ok for me.

There's a big 'if' right there- those 'bad guys' spent more time killing off their own countrywomen and countrymen than they did fighting 'left wing' regimes. Is breaking Victor Jara's fingers a plus for you? How about applying electrodes to the genitals of a doctor? Or raping and killing nuns? Or selling cocaine in the U.S., sowing land mines, and siphoning off U.S. aid into Swiss bank accounts?

http://www.msu.edu/~chapmanb/jara/evida.html

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/47/211.html

http://www.remember-chile.org.uk/co...99-03-28ind.htm

http://www.remember-chile.org.uk/comment/00-01-19bv.htm

http://www.ncpa.org/pd/pdint133.html

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~delacov...ragua/drugs.htm

If so much human ingenuity can be applied to new ways to torture, maim and kill human beings, what is left over for winning hearts and minds?

	02-03-2003 09:19									#33
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The problem is that after Saddam is gone, another ruthless Sunni dictator would take his place, the Kurds would lose their autonomy, and there'll be at least some death and destruction to infrastructure. That's the best case scenario Shrub will bring us, and it's already worse than the status quo.

	02-03-2003 09:58									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident The think about anti-war people is I think they are scared.

Go screw yourself with a piece of razor wire.

	02-03-2003 09:59									#35
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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom There's a big 'if' right there- those 'bad guys' spent more time killing off their own countrywomen and countrymen than they did fighting 'left wing' regimes. Is breaking Victor Jara's fingers a plus for you? How about applying electrodes to the genitals of a doctor? Or raping and killing nuns? Or selling cocaine in the U.S., sowing land mines, and siphoning off U.S. aid into Swiss bank accounts?

GO MOLLY GO!