04-03-2003 02:59									#31
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That's what I figured.

The more spread out a city is the less it'll screw up the air quality of the region because the pollutants won't be as concentrated...

	04-03-2003 03:03									#32
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Asher, put it to you this way, Atanta's congestion is similar to LA's.

Atlanta, the city itself, is very congested. The suburbs are spread out, but since when did this measure speak about the suburbs?

	04-03-2003 03:04									#33
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I also think you're being extremely silly by bickering about it, it never specifically said that was why it ranked so high.

It said that's "mainly" why North American cities placed well, listed the North American cities near the top, and you're somehow drawing a conclusion that the study thought Atlanta wasn't congested.

Lawyers.

	04-03-2003 03:06									#34
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God, Imran. Stop grasping at straws and admit that you originally read the sentence wrong. I do it too sometimes...

	04-03-2003 03:09									#35
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I didn't read the sentance wrong. I think the sentance IS wrong. There is a difference .

	04-03-2003 03:51									#36
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I know that rent is SF is very high right now. I don't see how the living standard could be so high there. You can get a higher paying job but your rent will be so high that you will not live well at all.

	04-03-2003 05:43									#37
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I've been to many if not most of the cities listed, and there isn't one of them that can stand up to living in a smaller city as far as I am concerned. Our pollution isn't bad at all, and I can walk out my front door heading West and there are miles and miles of wilderness. Or I can stop at the street, catch a bus and be downtown in 5 minutes, and to Denver in 45. I don't like big cities nearly enough to live in one. Hell, I don't even visit one all that often, except to visit friends.

	04-03-2003 06:00									#38
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I've always said that I would not like to live in London. I like the city, but as a place to live, no...

	04-03-2003 06:06									#39
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Air quality isn't only related to traffic conditions, but also to geographic conditions. Athens is extremely polluted (the worst European city in this regard according to the survey) notably because it is surrounded by hills, which is a dreadful combination with traffic jams.

I've yet to see any traffic jam in Stuttgart, yet the air quality isn't great, also because Stuttgart is surrounded by hills. I don't know if Atlanta is surrounded by plains or not, but I guess the surrounding and wind exposure explain why the air quality is so high there.

	04-03-2003 08:23									#40
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 Vancouver THIRD! Take that, Yanks.

Tied for second

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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: The survey was conducted to assist multinational companies in assessing international hardship allowances for their expatriate workers. AH! This study again! The one that rates cities for how good they are for expatriate workers and not really rating them on which are best in general.

Are you sure this is the one?

	04-03-2003 08:26									#42
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quote: Originally posted by DanS It seems it was just too much work for him to make a good career over there. IOW, he couldn't hack the competition.

Swedes focus on quality of living, which Usians focus on quantity of living (number of toys you can have).

	04-03-2003 08:34									#43
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Please, notice that this list is entirely made up of opinions. Yes, no facts. Just opinions; the funny thing is reasonable people can have totally different opinions and still both be right. It just depends on how they want to weight things.

	04-03-2003 08:35									#44
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Aren't you in SF? You should be happy about it

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Isn't the environmental list based predominantely on air quality readings?

	04-03-2003 08:40									#46
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Did you folks also notice that it was a Swiss company that put this out and they just happened to choose a Swiss city to be number one? Just like I said earlier the numbers are opinions based upon what Swiss persons feel is important and their opinions of what each place is like.

The reality is their opinions really don't matter and your opinion (and maybe your spouse's) is the only one which matters when it comes to deciding where you're going to live.

	04-03-2003 08:45									#47
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If you live in Calgary you have to support the Flames. That puts it right down near the bottom in any decent survey. Even an environmental survey for that matter - they stink that bad.

	04-03-2003 08:50									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon If you live in Calgary you have to support the Flames. That puts it right down near the bottom in any decent survey. Even an environmental survey for that matter - they stink that bad.

You're usually bad at trolling, but sports you should avoid at all cost. Terrible...

	04-03-2003 08:51									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov I've been trying to tell people all along the simple truth that homosexuals make everything better.

Acutally I agree with this wholeheartedly.

My urban renewal program teams up Habitat for Humanity with all the homosexuals and Jews in America. We send the gays in kinda like the Marines to soften the place up and then we send in the Jews behind them to hold the line.

If you're ever in the wrong part of town, run for the gay neighborhood and you will be safe!!!

	04-03-2003 09:04									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Asher You're usually bad at trolling, but sports you should avoid at all cost. Terrible...

And you are 100% predictable. I went out for a smoke knowing that you would reply.

Anyway, looks like you were right and the press and myself were wrong. JI is going nowhere.

	04-03-2003 09:08									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon And you are 100% predictable. I went out for a smoke knowing that you would reply.

Predictable is good. It means I'm systematic, reliable... At least, that's my philosophy

BTW, don't be a moron -- quit smoking.

	04-03-2003 09:14									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Predictable is good. It means I'm systematic, reliable... At least, that's my philosophy BTW, don't be a moron -- quit smoking.

I'm trying, but it isn't working.

	04-03-2003 09:16									#53
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Get the patch dog I know they have to have that **** in Kiwiland.

	04-03-2003 09:17									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon I'm trying, but it isn't working.

My advice to you is to try harder!

	04-03-2003 09:19									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Get the patch dog I know they have to have that **** in Kiwiland.

I live in Canada.

The best way is Cold Turkey. I managed to stop smoking for 3 months last year, but took it up again when my father died (that's not what killed him either.).

Anyway, the price is going up again so I'll have to stop.

	04-03-2003 09:19									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Asher My advice to you is to try harder!

All right. I might start up a thread for other quitters and see how we are all doing.

No comments on Iginla?

	04-03-2003 09:21									#57
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I always knew Iggy wasn't going anywhere, the media here knew as well. It's not a surprise to me.

	04-03-2003 09:23									#58
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I said get the patch or else Shiela!

http://familydoctor.org/handouts/191.html

	04-03-2003 09:23									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I always knew Iggy wasn't going anywhere, the media here knew as well. It's not a surprise to me.

If he does get traded, you shall be flamed.

	04-03-2003 09:25									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon If he does get traded, you shall be flamed.

He won't be. He's the reason people are buying Flames tickets these days, Craig Button knows that and has admitted it publically.

If they trade him for Mario Lemiux or something, they'd probably do it, but not for anything less...