08-03-2003 09:10									#31
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Strategy: Civ2, EU2, Warlords III, Warlords Battlecry II, Total Annihilation, Kohan, Transport Tycoon Deluxe
FPS: Doom, Duke3D, Serious Sam

	08-03-2003 15:09									#32
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo Strategy: (...) Transport Tycoon Deluxe

Wouldn't that be a Tycoon game?

	08-03-2003 20:48									#33
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A bit of everything, except RTS, racing, and FPS. But the one I like most defies classification: M.U.L.E.

	09-03-2003 03:01									#34
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Puzzle games are fun for a while, until you actually have to start thinking.

	09-03-2003 04:53									#35
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quote: Originally posted by ADG Wouldn't that be a Tycoon game?

I didn't feel like subcategorizing them (because EU2 is neither RTS or TBS though it could fit under 4x).

	09-03-2003 13:27									#36
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well I voted for TBS, RPG, and Sim

I do play some sports games like Madden football. But that is the only sports game I play. And even then I don't buy it every year. The PC version is pretty crappy anyways.

I rarely play FPS. I have played a little bit of Max Payne. Just couldn't get into it. I have also played. Counterstrike.

I could have voted for boardgames, but I never play any of those anymore. In the past I have played monopoly, risk, and axis and allies.

	11-03-2003 22:54									#37
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In order of preference:

1. TBS. The Civs, 4x games, and SMAC in particular.
2. RPG. Isometric ones as opposed to first-person, though. I even will count Diablo in this.
3. Simulation. In this I include the SimCity genre andf the flight sims like X-Wing.

I initially enjoyed the RTS games like Warcraft, Command & Conquer and Total Annhilation, but got really bored with the genre. I don't intend to buy any more unless I see one come out that is dramatically different.

I liked EU and EU II ok, but also got bored after a while. Too many stretches of tedious nothingness.

I would probably enjoy FPS more if they didn't give me motion sickness.

I never understood the appeal of fighting games like Mortal Kombat.

	12-03-2003 00:03									#38
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Sports and Simulation these days...

	12-03-2003 00:43									#39
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Read this:

quote: Originally posted by ADG Btw, just so you know: Sim(City, etc) type of games, goes under Tycoon... I have seen SimCity type of games, in many different categories (From Sim(ulation), to strategy... and lots between), but I'd say such games belong to the Tycoon genre...

Then this:

quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov 3. Simulation. In this I include the SimCity genre andf the flight sims like X-Wing.

quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov 1. TBS. The Civs, 4x games, and SMAC in particular.

What is 4x games?

	12-03-2003 01:04									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger A bit of everything, except RTS, racing, and FPS. But the one I like most defies classification: M.U.L.E.

I remember this from my Commodire-64 days. Great game. Too bad the DOS version never came out.

	12-03-2003 01:26									#41
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4x games: MOO3, GalCiv, Space Empires IV, etc. Conquer the galaxy games.

I never considered SimCity a Tycoon game, but if that's where it goes, fine. I always considered those types of games to be business sims (Capitalism, Railroad Tycoon), which I usually find boring.

	12-03-2003 02:26									#42
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quote: Originally posted by ADG What is 4x games?

MOO3, SEIV etc.

Stands for exploration, expansion, ex -um- communication, and the extra one I can't remember.

Edit: Narrowly pipped by BG, but I see he doesn't know what the x's stand for either.

	12-03-2003 02:30									#43
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Exploration, Expansion, Extermination and Exploitation.

	12-03-2003 02:38									#44
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Noone likes a smartypants.

	12-03-2003 14:46									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov 4x games: MOO3, GalCiv, Space Empires IV, etc. Conquer the galaxy games.

Thx for the info

quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov I never considered SimCity a Tycoon game, but if that's where it goes, fine. I always considered those types of games to be business sims (Capitalism, Railroad Tycoon), which I usually find boring.

Wouldn't SimCity be a bussiness sim? I see 'bussiness' as "dealing with money", and AFAIK you "deal with money" in SimCity games...

Sim(ulation)s I always considered only applied to flight Sims... I can't see what SimCity has to do with flight sims...

	12-03-2003 20:26									#46
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I'd call MMOG's different to RPG's. In an RPG its usually all about how you save the world. In a MMOG you have to derive your fun from what you do in the world while it goes on saving or destroying itself whether you bother to log in or not.

	12-03-2003 20:27									#47
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Noone likes a smartypants.

How come we like you then, Mr. Smartypants?

	12-03-2003 21:05									#48
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet How come we like you then, Mr. Smartypants?

Not sure whether to be pleased or annoyed. Here's a bit of both.

	12-03-2003 21:07									#49
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You should have been pleased.

Besides, I'm in no place to criticise anybody for making wise-ass comments, since that's all I ever do myself anyway.

	12-03-2003 21:09									#50
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Oh, is *that* what you were trying for.

	12-03-2003 21:12									#51
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bah! I've been out-wise-assed!

A pox on thee Spikey!

	12-03-2003 21:54									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Solver FPS - not that I like the genre, but I have to mention Doom and Doom 2. Since then, everything is crap.

Serious Sam rocks!

Sam I am!

	12-03-2003 21:57									#53
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You've got that right...

The comedy in both SS1 and SS2 are great (I've heard they're making a third game...can't wait... does that one includes pyramids (of some sort) also )

	12-03-2003 23:18									#54
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quote: Originally posted by ADG Thx for the info Wouldn't SimCity be a bussiness sim? I see 'bussiness' as "dealing with money", and AFAIK you "deal with money" in SimCity games... Sim(ulation)s I always considered only applied to flight Sims... I can't see what SimCity has to do with flight sims...

I don't see it as a business sim. Lots of games deal with money management...like Civ!

Since Sim is short for simulation, I just naturally thought a city simulation would apply...

	12-03-2003 23:37									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov I don't see it as a business sim. Lots of games deal with money management...like Civ!

But Civ is more about strategy, than bussiness...

quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Since Sim is short for simulation, I just naturally thought a city simulation would apply...

I have only heard the word simulation, when it was refering to something like flight sim

	13-03-2003 04:33									#56
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I think a business simulation would be more akin to Simcountry, for instance.

	13-03-2003 12:51									#57
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quote: But Civ is more about strategy, than bussiness...

IMHO so is SimCity.

	13-03-2003 14:45									#58
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But strategy is about war, SimCity is not about war...

	13-03-2003 14:53									#59
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Strategy is about weighing up all available options and making a decision, which is why we say that very linear games (i.e. ones where you have little or no choice) have no strategy to them.

Admittedly, that definition of strategy is very broad - I think that a "strategy game" combines many different areas - like the diplomacy, city building, tile management and war of Civ games. On the other hand, something more narrow, like a "business sim" or a "war game" only deals with one of these areas.

That's the way I see it, anyway.

I believe that SimCity4 is a strategy game, and that SimCity2 was a "sim" game because in the older game all you really had to do was just throw down buildings while keeping an eye on the budget window and demand bars - IMHO SimCity4 takes it one step further than that.

	15-03-2003 00:03									#60
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RPGs, Sports, and TBS are the genres i enjoy the most