07-03-2003 01:57									#31
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Diss,

You're such a sissy. Real men don't talk about their feelings and cry about feminization like such prissy little *****es. I'm dissapointed

	07-03-2003 02:26									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp It's a stone-cold fact that no nation or people lead by a woman have ever gone to war. Oh, hang on a minute...

	07-03-2003 02:42									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Marry a woman from a male dominated society like the Philippines. Study these before and after pictures: Me during my first marriage to average feminist type: My single years dating other feminized American women: Since marrying my dear wife: There ya go.

All this proves is something about your character, not the average feminist type. Some men are neanderthals and can't handle a strong, intelligent and independent woman. That's why there was such immediate vitriol against Hillary Clinton when she first came into the national spotlight. OMG, a woman who thinks she's equal to men! GET HER!!!

	07-03-2003 02:48									#34
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there's the obvious solution.

women should be forced to imbibe testosterone, and men estrogen.

only through androgyny will lasting peace ever come to earth.

	07-03-2003 02:59									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp It's a stone-cold fact that no nation or people lead by a woman have ever gone to war. Oh, hang on a minute...

She was a woman?? Could have fooled me... And anyways, the Argentinians started it...

	07-03-2003 03:15									#36
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Females being for peace, love, liberty and sharing feelings. . Tell me another one. No nation led by a women has ever gone to war where do you get this crap. There's the small matter of a certain female minister in a African country that ordered the rape, murder and genocide of children/women/men. 10 pts. if you know who this is. Being a female doesn't make you any more moral then being a male does. Of course we all know the various female monarchs in England and Russia, they were all flowers and love for everyone.

I remember back during the time when the gender feminazis were calling for war against Afghanistan because of the horrible treatment of women by the Taliban and when the war came around to happening they sure turned around quickly. I suppose that's the number one rule of feminazism if man does what you say he's evil if he doesn't he's evil. That's right next to rule number 2 anything a women does is good anything a man does is evil.

	07-03-2003 03:20									#37
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Wow, this thread sure got all the women on the board riled up...

	07-03-2003 03:20									#38
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quote: Originally posted by SirTweek I remember back during the time when the gender feminazis were calling for war against Afghanistan because of the horrible treatment of women by the Taliban and when the war came around to happening they sure turned around quickly.

That is a total crock of uninformed bullshit, and I know because I participated in several NOW-sponsored forums about Afghanistan when I was in college back in 1996-98. The womens and human rights groups that spoke out about the Taliban didn't call for a war--they called for tougher international sanctions and diplomatic pressure, as well as money food and other financial aid to the women and children in Afghanistan.

When the war started against the Taliban, NOW and other groups were the first ones to remark that, had the U.S. and its allies taken them seriously years before, perhaps things would have turned out differently.

	07-03-2003 03:48									#39
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pacifism, civility, gentlemanly conduct

Gentlemanly conduct is sexist and anti-feministic, you moron. In a civilized society, one opens doors for everyone.

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	07-03-2003 03:54									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov All this proves is something about your character, not the average feminist type. Some men are neanderthals and can't handle a strong, intelligent and independent woman.

And some women don't want to be strong and independent but would rather be part of a traditional marriage.

The whole point of feminism was to break people free of roles which others thought they should be pigeonholed in and open up all possibilities for everyone. Lancer & Dolores are as entitled to live their choice in lifestyle (without being called names ) as do Bill & Hillary.

quote: That's why there was such immediate vitriol against Hillary Clinton when she first came into the national spotlight.

Well that, and the fact that she has the ethical compass of a starving rat.

	07-03-2003 03:59									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov That is a total crock of uninformed bullshit, and I know because I participated in several NOW-sponsored forums about Afghanistan when I was in college back in 1996-98. The womens and human rights groups that spoke out about the Taliban didn't call for a war--they called for tougher international sanctions and diplomatic pressure, as well as money food and other financial aid to the women and children in Afghanistan. When the war started against the Taliban, NOW and other groups were the first ones to remark that, had the U.S. and its allies taken them seriously years before, perhaps things would have turned out differently.

NOW loves to backpedal now don't they. Feminazis called for war if necessary against the taliban. I don't remember them saying that if we had taken them seriously this problem wouldn't exist. In fact I remember the feminazis were the first to remark at the University of BC that the US deserved 9/11 and how happy they were that american imperialist patriarchal scumbags finally got what they deserved.

	07-03-2003 04:01									#42
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo ::::::: pacifism, civility, gentlemanly conduct Gentlemanly conduct is sexist and anti-feministic, you moron. In a civilized society, one opens doors for everyone.

Right on and this is what equality and feminism should be about both men and women breaking free from traditional roles and expectations.

	07-03-2003 04:03									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Zkribbler The whole point of feminism was to break people free of roles which others thought they should be pigeonholed in and open up all possibilities for everyone. Lancer & Dolores are as entitled to live their choice in lifestyle (without being called names ) as do Bill & Hillary.

I didn't say otherwise. But keep in mind it is Lancer, Dissident, et al. who are proclaiming that feminism is somehow destroying America, thus it is they who are guilty of criticizing the free choices of women.

I didn't call anyone names, now did I?

quote: Well that, and the fact that she has the ethical compass of a starving rat.

The vitriol started against Hillary in 1992, well before anyone knew anything much about her ethical compass.

	07-03-2003 04:10									#44
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quote: Originally posted by SirTweek NOW loves to backpedal now don't they. Feminazis called for war if necessary against the taliban. I don't remember them saying that if we had taken them seriously this problem wouldn't exist. In fact I remember the feminazis were the first to remark at the University of BC that the US deserved 9/11 and how happy they were that american imperialist patriarchal scumbags finally got what they deserved.

You're full of it. Show me a source from NOW or any other major woman's rights group that called for war on Afghanistan prior to Sept. 11th, and show me their saying such things as you claim post-9-11. I'll even help you:

http://www.now.org/search?NS-search-page=results

Now quit talking out of your arse.

	07-03-2003 04:11									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov I didn't call anyone names, now did I?

Uhhh... But what you said was pretty damn insulting...

quote: Some men are neanderthals and can't handle a strong, intelligent and independent woman.

Directly aimed at Lancer. So stop with the personal attacks.

And you better check your PM's real quick...

	07-03-2003 04:18									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov You're full of it. Show me a source from NOW or any other major woman's rights group that called for war on Afghanistan prior to Sept. 11th, and show me their saying such things as you claim post-9-11. I'll even help you: http://www.now.org/search?NS-search-page=results Now quit talking out of your arse.

Yeah I'll get right on searching at NOW's website for this. Just like when Iwant to find dirt on anyone I go directly to there website where they proclaim where they screwed up loudly of course.

Edit: Those remarks were made at the U of BC's 2002 fully government funded confrence on domestic abuse and violence against women. It was widly reported in the newspapers around here and denounced by real feminists.

On a sidenote what's the big deal with violence against women? Since most violence in society is perpetrated against men shouldn't we be having violence against humans meetings? Unless you believe women are the weaker sex and need special protections?

	07-03-2003 04:33									#47
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they called for tougher international sanctions and diplomatic pressure, as well as money food and other financial aid to the women and children in Afghanistan.

In your heart of hearts Boris, do you really think sanctions would have made a whit of difference to the isolationist-minded zealots of the Taliban?

As for aid: Just how is it supposed to get to those needy women and children without passing through the gov't controlled by the Taliban? Surely you understand that they'd intercept any international shipments and give the supplies to the army?

	07-03-2003 05:32									#48
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo ::::::: pacifism, civility, gentlemanly conduct Gentlemanly conduct is sexist and anti-feministic, you moron. In a civilized society, one opens doors for everyone.

ok fez of the left

	07-03-2003 06:41									#49
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The National Organization of Women would be more aptly named the National Organization of Lesbians or the National Organization of Women who Want to be Men. Just my two cents worth.

	07-03-2003 06:44									#50
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...and worth every penny.

	07-03-2003 06:44									#51
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"The ethical compass of a starving rat"



I hope I remember that line for the rest of my days. Thank's!

"The ethical compass of a starving rat."

	07-03-2003 06:47									#52
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PETA is going to hunt you down for that one

	07-03-2003 06:48									#53
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By the way, Hillary voted for the war in Iraq and even spoke in the Senate encouraging it inspite of the opposition of her constituents. So -- I guess she does have some type of moral compass.

	07-03-2003 06:50									#54
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Neanderthal? Ugg, me mad.

	07-03-2003 07:16									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Neanderthal? Ugg, me mad.

Not meant at you, Lancer, sorry. Poor post spacing.

	07-03-2003 07:17									#56
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quote: Originally posted by SirTweek Feminazis called

Shut up, male chauvinazi.

	07-03-2003 10:29									#57
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I'm not sure about America, but since I turned 40 I've noticed my pecs are turning into boobies.

	07-03-2003 10:38									#58
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I am not sure why my normally liberal friends are pro-feminist. Modern feminism is divisive and bad. As a socialist, I can't support such a movement in good conscience. We, as humanity should not support a movement that is built on conflict between the two genders and should strive instead for cooperation, regardless of our gender. The type of doctrine espoused by the current feminist movements will only destroy us.

	07-03-2003 12:04									#59
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quote: Originally posted by monkspider I am not sure why my normally liberal friends are pro-feminist. Modern feminism is divisive and bad. As a socialist, I can't support such a movement in good conscience. We, as humanity should not support a movement that is built on conflict between the two genders and should strive instead for cooperation, regardless of our gender. The type of doctrine espoused by the current feminist movements will only destroy us.

I agree fully and totally with you here we should be striving to better humanity not divide each other along gender lines.

As for being a chauvanazi all my wife and I can do about that is considering we both work and share family responsibilities. I even got to stay home with my son when he was born because of parental leave becoming more open to fathers in 2002 in Canada. It was a great nine months and I would suggest any father to take advantage of the parental leave laws.

	07-03-2003 12:15									#60
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It's funny how people put words in my mouth.

When did I ever advocate raping women?

Obviously you guys know what I'm saying better than I.