11-03-2003 13:54									#61
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I don't see what's sad about it, NTP works fine for me.

time.nist.gov uses NTP (says so right on their website, in fact).

And seeing as how time.nist.gov actually runs Unix (AIX), I can't say I see your point...

	11-03-2003 14:00									#62
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For the record, the reason why you're having trouble is Windows uses RFC-867 ("Daytime"), and NTP is RFC-1305.

They are similar, but Daytime came first.

Damn Unix bastards.

	11-03-2003 14:39									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Asher For the record, the reason why you're having trouble is Windows uses RFC-867 ("Daytime"), and NTP is RFC-1305. They are similar, but Daytime came first. Damn Unix bastards.

Really? That might explain it.

EDIT: Btw, NTP does a bit more than just reporting back time, as DAYTIME does. They are not quite "similar".

EDIT2, to avoid a bump:

No, it's not DAYTIME. I tracked the call down on my server. WinXP tries to invoke NTP (123/UDP), but the protocol it uses, must be different from RFC 1305.

	12-03-2003 10:06									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I still don't know what you're talking about. http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/service/its.htm The website for time.nist.gov says: quote: The NIST Internet Time Service (ITS) allows users to synchronize computer clocks via the Internet. The time information provided by the service is directly traceable to UTC(NIST). The service responds to time requests from any Internet client in several formats including the DAYTIME, TIME, and NTP protocols. So if your NTP clients can't access it, the PEBKAC... So why are you complaining?

hi ,

, a "dot gov" is going to give us the right time , ......

when looking at three windows at the same time the dot gov was 87 sec's to late , .....

just look at the GMT site and do it yourself , ...

, changing the small battery on the motherboard might be good also for older comp's , .....

have a nice day

	12-03-2003 10:40									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph No, it's not DAYTIME. I tracked the call down on my server. WinXP tries to invoke NTP (123/UDP), but the protocol it uses, must be different from RFC 1305.

WinXP uses DAYTIME (867) on port 123/UDP.

	12-03-2003 12:23									#66
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Wasn't daytime a read-only service at port 13/tcp? Just connect and read an clear text ASCII string, without sending anything. I sniffed the packets WinXP sent at 123/udp, they contained 48 bytes of binary stuff, maybe floating point numbers, but not sure. It's certainly not what I would expect in daytime.

	13-03-2003 01:59									#67
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Gee, I thought I was being quite original by keeping my clock in sync. I even forced my Linux to sync clock on every startup, not just when I tell it to .

	13-03-2003 08:22									#68
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You're scaring Markos and Dan away with your NTP talk!

	13-03-2003 16:50									#69
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Not only Mark and Dan....

I only asked what NTP was, never gonna do that again..

	16-03-2003 20:51									#70
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Come on, can this be fixed?

My life runs on the Apolyton clock. I've been late to class before because of you Markos.

	13-04-2003 21:47									#71
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hi ,

after watching this for a couple of days ;

there are differences in time , a couple sec's , up to 108 ( total ) between france , italy , greece , israel and the uk , .....

could the loss of time be partly thanks to the local providers ( servers ) , ......


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	14-04-2003 04:02									#72
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Even local providers should all run on the same 'excact' time.

	14-04-2003 04:12									#73
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Trip, go to CGN ( www.civgaming.net ).

Their clock is ~ 8 minutes fast so you'll never be late again!

	15-04-2003 01:43									#74
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quote: Originally posted by atawa Even local providers should all run on the same 'excact' time.

hi ,

yeah right , ....


sometimes they are off 3-4 min in Paris from each other , .....


not to mention that some people put in the comps a five minute advance , etc , .....


have a nice day

	16-04-2003 16:22									#75
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Frozzers,

at least Buster has promised to fix it.