29-03-2003 19:24									#31
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Can you give us some tips?

M

	29-03-2003 20:28									#32
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URGENT!

OK QUICK! I NEED TO INVADE ANOTHER COUNTRY ASAP!!!!

This is a Computer controlled country:

DEFENSIVE FORCE:13.4
FINANCE: 496.4
ASSETS: >2Trillion E$

I need to invade by air. What do I do?

	30-03-2003 00:36									#33
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Decrease your taxes, increase you low wage workers and let me install a Fighter corporation in your country.

	30-03-2003 01:28									#34
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Nice try.

Believe me, I would've done it myself, But I don't know where can I get them low wage workers.

DAMN LOW UNEMPLOYMENT 3.5%

	30-03-2003 09:40									#35
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You need many attack helicopters (2,000 or more), and around 1,000 fighters. You need around 5,000 air to air missiles, and perhaps over 100,000 attack helicopter missiles (I have used up more than that in my ongoing war so far).


I have today also received my first loss, with Gaudaemus attacking a country my corp was built in. This loss makes my enterprise a 0-corp enterprise now, and it is living off its interest.
Oh, and I plan to exterminate the little ******* that destroyed my corp.

	30-03-2003 10:40									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Giovanni Wine Ehm, back on topic. I Agree with #2, too low ranking countries should not be admitted until they seem to be stable enough.

Let the Federation of Lonestar Cities in now!


Geeze, it's like frickin' Turkey and the Frickin' EU here....

	30-03-2003 11:36									#37
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Skanky: but for crying out loud, it has a pityful defence index!

copied from defence force statistics:Type of Weapon Available Ammunition Used

Anti Aircraft Missile Batteries 190 Anti Aircraft Missiles
Fortification 3 -
Military Airport 1 -
Military Base 1 -
Missile Interceptor Batteries 455 Anti Missile Missiles
Short Range Missile Batteries 453 Short Range Missiles
Armored Vehicles 20 Anti Tank Missiles
Helicopters 181 Helicopter Land Missiles
Interceptors 30 Air To Air Missiles
Jeeps 30 -
Light Artillery 20 Light Artillery Shells
Light Tanks 20 Light Tank Ammunition
Radar Planes 2 -


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Air To Air Missiles 1,700
Anti Aircraft Missiles 1,600
Anti Missile Missiles 1,600
Anti Tank Missiles 200
Helicopter Land Missiles 1,700
Light Artillery Shells 5,000
Light Tank Ammunition 5,000
Short Range Missiles 1,560

	30-03-2003 12:11									#38
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Oh, in that case you can use much less.

	30-03-2003 12:59									#39
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won't use my nuke missiles, though.

I am planning to use ~100 bombers, ~100 fighters, and around 500 Helos. will that be enough?

	30-03-2003 20:20									#40
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Definately not enough. The anti-aircraft missles will eat you alive.

	30-03-2003 21:09									#41
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the measely 190 AA batteries?

	30-03-2003 21:14									#42
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What should I use against them, anyway? I figured my 100 jets will take out their 30 interceptors, and then, my bombers will attack their SAMs, and then, my helos will mope their 30 light tanks, or something.

	30-03-2003 21:24									#43
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Azazel, I'm telling you it would be a lot more fun if you issued them an ultimatium.

	30-03-2003 21:32									#44
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Your jets may take out the interceptors, but in the meanwhile your jets have all been shot down by the 190 anti-aircraft batteries. That's what happened to me, although they had about 400 anti-aircraft batteries.

Whatever it is you need to take out AA batteries: get them, and take out the AA batteries/interceptors. After that, bomb the heck out of 'em. I would get more bombers because it would probably make the war shorter.

I wouldn't even worry about their weak ground forces. Just bypass them.

Don't just take my word for it, but after seeing what AA batteries can do to an airforce in my previous war, I would recommend a larger force. (And you won't even have enough of an offensive index to declare war with 100 fighters/bombers and 500 helicopters)

	30-03-2003 21:45									#45
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That's right. I've got the nuke index for that.

	30-03-2003 21:47									#46
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Lonestar: Ok, maybe, first, let me take over that country I am attacking now. I'll deal with uncle Joe later.

	30-03-2003 21:51									#47
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I hate to spoil the fun but aren't you geezers supposed to talk about the federation?

	30-03-2003 21:57									#48
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. the federation is not such a big need right now, since most of the players cannot go to war for the Glory Of Apolyton yet. The Federation mainly exists as a cover from invasion of others, showing that one shouldn't mess with individual member states.

For now, that is.

How's your country going, Colon?

	31-03-2003 01:01									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel . the federation is not such a big need right now, since most of the players cannot go to war for the Glory Of Apolyton yet. The Federation mainly exists as a cover from invasion of others, showing that one shouldn't mess with individual member states. For now, that is.

You won't get an effective federation if you don't work out what is should look like. No need to wait to discuss that.

Replying on your question in the other thread.

	31-03-2003 02:36									#50
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Azazel: I normally attack with a force of 1000-1500 helis (just attacking the target to reduce their war index). With 8 AA guns, they can shoot down 4-15 helis each time. With less helis attacking, they will be able to shoot down more.

It really depends on how many AAs they have at each target.

Let us know how your bomber forces go. I'm finding that destroying cities with helicopters takes quite a bit of ammo.

Finally, ignore the ground forces. Unless you are invading with ground units too, just leave them there to defend the country after you take it over.

	31-03-2003 09:59									#51
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Roger that.

	31-03-2003 20:01									#52
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Franit Empire is around #400 in world rankings!

	31-03-2003 20:21									#53
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I am #516, but that's because I am at war, and my finance index is... ahem.

	31-03-2003 21:51									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Malleus Can you give us some tips? M

Just that your corps are gold. Upgrade quality as soon as you can, don't trade with contracts because you can get more on the open market.

Order supplies at -10 or -15, that way you almost never get shortages, and your quality will be higher.

I was lucky and got a country with about 10 good corps. Each making more than 1B a month, so I was able to close the losers and start a bunch of new ones.

	31-03-2003 23:36									#55
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Skanky, build three corporations in 'The Republic of Euskadi' There is lots of unemployement, and if you put all three there, I will drop the tax rate by 10%.

	01-04-2003 00:04									#56
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It's much better to build your own corporations than have CEO's

	01-04-2003 00:15									#57
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Yeah I know, but Im a free marketeer and I believe that countires shouldnt really own any companies. Less things to worry about, if you know what I mean.

	01-04-2003 01:15									#58
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Cool, people implementing their ideology in the game.

I do it too. Draconian tax levels, nonexistant unemployment. All is good.

Lawrence: you more low level Managers.

	01-04-2003 01:24									#59
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If I build more, will you come?

	01-04-2003 01:30									#60
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ok increased in low level managers, doctors and teachers. also purchased some military equipment. I am going to start to buikd schools and hospitals and increase defense expenditure.
Things are going according to plan.