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DrSpike is offline DrSpike
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perhaps we could call it a Sololiquy on Early landings?




Sharp......I like it. If Solo agrees that is what the entry for the Great Library should be called.

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Very good. Very, VERY good.


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2.4 Governments used in ELG


2.4.1 Anarchy

Anarchy is actually lack of government, and for a long time players had to endure unpredictable durations of it when changing government types. Then Oedo discovered that the length of Anarchy was governed by a simple 4 year cycle. Ever since, the year of 3250 BC, and every fourth year that followed during any game became known as “Oedo years”, and players were able to minimize Anarchy by starting revolutions on the turns preceding these years.


I think you meant 3850BC?

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Elephant,

I think I did, too! I've included your correction. Thanks for spotting that error. There are sure to be others.

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Wow!

This will take a while to digest, not to mention master...

Great work! Thanks!

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Outstanding! Amazing amounts of information, clearly organized and explained.

Now I just have to figure out which 10% of it I want to try to truly understand and attempt to incorporate into my games since I can't imagine being able to handle all of it!

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Solo,

What a marvelous treatise you have crafted!! Very well done. All of us will benifit from this.

I wish I had noticed this new thread sooner and hope that you do not feel slighted by this untimely acknowledgment. Unfortunately, I have been incapacitated most of the last ten days and only just now finished reading your "guide." I use quotes there because it is so much more than a guide. You have given us a powerful, clear, and comprehensive study of the main elements of this very special game.

I hope many other folk will catch the Early Landing bug from reading your "guide."

Monk

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Bump back to first page.

It might be nice to top this thread whilst the EL games are still continuing.

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Well at least wait till it drops a bit before bumping it again.

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I have PMed Ming requesting that this thread be 'topped'.
Rather belatedly a big thank you to solo for all his work.

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I also have been reading this wonderful piece of work.

Very thoughtful, clearly written, and a must read for Civ 2 enthusiats who want to perfect their game.

Thanks for the terrific effort

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I´m impressed. this strategy guide contains a lot of stuff I didn´t even know yet. I think the next rainy day I will give civ2 another chance.

great work solo.

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Thanks to many for the kind comments.

I haven't seen you around for quite awhile, Oedo!

Most of the "great work" was actually that by Samson and yourself, so take another bow!

At the moment, I have become throughly distracted by Brian Reynolds' new game Rise of Nations. Although I prefer turn based games, this RTS presents more depth than usual and offers some more puzzles to solve.

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Solo: Really enjoyed this guide!
I have been trying some of your great suggestions for early landing games. I was trying to defend my cities from the barbs with diplomats but once they jumped off the ship right by my second city a leader with a unit or two on the same hex (no bribe). They emptied the city and could have walked right in, but instead a message came from the barb leader that they would go away for x amount of gold which I was glad to pay. I think the leader even had a name! Can this option be counted on or was it just a fluke?

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Be aware that when gold reserves are low they'll just sack the city.

Watch for the lone barb you can bribe and use for defence/attack the other barb...........and early on before you get into republic you can use a warrior on good terrain as bait for the barbs, which can expose the leader.

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Solo,

Just wanted to add my belated congrats to those above.
It's truly awesome.

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Sure it is (and your discoveries about trade proved very useful).
Happy to see you back, samson

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Thanks, LaFayette.
Good to see you around too.

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This one worth killing a few trees over, so I can read at my leisure and have reference at hand during play.

Amazing level of detail!! A great contribution to the community, samson.

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OMG can it really be 107 pages???????????

Tree-huggers, please close your eyes while I do this...

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Amazing level of detail!! A great contribution to the community, samson.



Don't you think Solo deserves some credit?

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I suppose that JRabbit intended to write 'solo'
(though when someone says 'thank you', samson also deserves it )

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A Quicker Way to Identify Wildcard Commodities

I thought I would add a small supplement here to my section in the guide about commodity wildcards. While playing EL games and when looking for colony locations having wildcards matching those of my SSC, I did not want to bother calculating the wildcards for every potential site. Instead, I used charts that I had made of the various wildcard patterns as they appear on the map grid.

Using these charts, it was only necessary to calculate wildcards for just one tile in any area of the map being examined. Once one set of wildcards was determined, these charts could be used to find the relative positions of all surrounding wildcards. In fact, if some cities were already present, no calculations were necessary, since there would be enough wildcards among their middle commodities to verify the patterns seen in the charts.

Below are copies of the four charts that I use. The patterns are obvious before the 32 tech level has been reached. After that they are a bit more subtle. In each chart, the tile in the upper left position corresponds to grid coordinate (0,0) on the map. Each chart represents a full iteration of the pattern before it starts to repeat.

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The chart for demand wildcards (tech total under 32) which originally appeared here was in error. The corrected chart has been added on page 3 as a new post. My apologies to those who tried to use the incorrect chart.

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The mind boggles.

Thanks Samson.

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Great stuff, Solo.

Now I wonder if the SGs could add this to their hutfinder

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The mind boggles.
Thanks Samson.
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The Dr's mind boggles indeed.

Repeat after me: solo,solo,solo,solo,....

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Do they have irony in France LF?

 
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