15-06-2003 11:27									#181
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Why don't we strike at Kiev from the North?

Are there any roads between the two fronts?

That way we cut the Huns supply lines, and concentrate a massive battle against Kiev, rather than fighting all the way east in Stalingrad and along the Don.

	15-06-2003 13:06									#182
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The marshes lie between Nikov and Kiev. To make matters worse, Nikov is seperated by even more swamp from the Minsk and smolensk. an attack south would have to be made by partisans and cossack cavalry with heavy support from sturmikovs.

	16-06-2003 07:37									#183
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The red army/air force take Warsaw and Liberate Brest.

Loss ratio against the germans was 1 us 3 theres for the month.

Sturmoviks and artillery damaged in the fight and will take months to repair/replace, further sorties west unlikely.

Huge geman army north of Bialstok, being held this turn by a blockade of bombers, tanks and NKVD troops.

Strikes will now move south and east to meet up with the other front lines.

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	16-06-2003 07:57									#184
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Congradulations Comrade General, for your liberation of all Soviet territory on your front, and the march into Poland and taking one of the enemies own capital cities.

	16-06-2003 10:12									#185
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With the moratorium on advancing into Germany proper until sufficient artillery arrives and the other fronts catch up, everyone has been looking for the Belorussian Armies to turn south, but what about the North? Now the Northwest front is planning to strike out at Daugavplis and Riga. What if a Belorussian group could seize Vilnius and protect the NW Front's flank while they drive for Riga on the Baltic?

As you can see in my attached picture, The army can follow either of two paths (or both) to reach Vilnius. However, two different problems exist for each potential route. On the eastern blue route, you can see the yellow dot on a forest square, the road was severed there last summer and would have to be repaired. For the western approach, our units would be exposed to units coming out of Germany more than I'd like. perhaps severing the road west at the red dot would slow down the Germans, I don't believe we'll be needing that road to advance into Germany, so no real loss there. But then we have German planes coming down on our marching troops. I circled Arzamas in black, we'd need to station a Shturmovik there to support our troops in the area directly sorrounding Vilnius, either approach we choose can be guarded easily enough IMO from bialystok until our troops reach Vilnius, then the Arzamas airbase would neer to take over.

IMO, the eastern advance is a safer approach, we just need to use a labor brigade to build us a road over that forest.

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	16-06-2003 10:57									#186
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Very good idea Marshal I'll apply those troop movements next turn.

I feel that Anzac is also is a better position to take Daugvopils and Kaunus as he has the mobile units to do so in one movement from the roads NE of daugavpils. His units have also been on leave most of summer.

I have been gathering a few red guards in Arzamus for the attack on Vilnus in Winter but your right once a few tanks are repaired I could add them to the northern front to hopefully help attack in a few month.

I'll send a labor unit to rebuild the road in yellow next turn

	16-06-2003 11:12									#187
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quote: Originally posted by Colwyn Very good idea Marshal I'll apply those troop movements next turn. I feel that Anzac is also is a better position to take Daugvopils and Kaunus as he has the mobile units to do so in one movement from the roads NE of daugavpils. His units have also been on leave most of summer.

It was never my intention to have you attack Daugvaplis or Kaunas, in fact, I should probably mention that the units you send forward will be on a one way trip, once comrade Anzyakov takes Riga and the Baltic front takes Talinin, Vilnius will chop to the NW front while Riga will be transferred to the Baltic Front. After all that gets sorted out, they'll be ready for a push into Germany (assuming we have the artillery needed)

quote: I have been gathering a few red guards in Arzamus for the attack on Vilnus in Winter but your right once a few tanks are repaired I could add them to the northern front to hopefully help attack in a few month.

Those Shtumoviks are so powerful we can use them to clear away any Germans in the open field(assuming we can get them into the right place) and a few tanks supported by the Red guards should be able to seize the city.

quote: I'll send a labor unit to rebuild the road in yellow next turn

excellent


If anyone has a problem with the proposed alterations to front areas, they should take it up with me in the STAVKA thread, not here.

	17-06-2003 13:06									#188
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quote: Originally posted by Colwyn Kirov Tank works in Warsaw next turn!

You werent kidding

	19-06-2003 14:58									#189
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Action plan for September

The nazi's sought him here they sought him there but they couldn't find that damn ellusive belorussian commander the scarlet Pavlov.

Comrades the time is for all fronts to attack and meet the goals of our illustrious leaders.

To this end the bellorussian front will attack northwards, southwards and eastwards in that order as supplies and divisional strength allows.

	20-06-2003 04:51									#190
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Reco in red arrow direction, probe area's for defences, attack if weak.

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	20-06-2003 05:11									#191
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Leave Vilnius for Anzac, since you seem to be group center, you shouldnt spread yourself too thin.

	20-06-2003 05:51									#192
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He has tons of units: he won't spread himself thin

Also H I think mentioned he wants Comrade Zangalis to help me with Vilnius and then turn the city over to me. At least that's how I thought I understood it

	20-06-2003 07:49									#193
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quote: Originally posted by The ANZAC He has tons of units: he won't spread himself thin Also H I think mentioned he wants Comrade Zangalis to help me with Vilnius and then turn the city over to me. At least that's how I thought I understood it

I Have only 2 units in some front line cities! I have taken Vilnius!

	20-06-2003 07:53									#194
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Lodz, Vilnius and Kiev taken, some kv1's and t34's lost.

Initial reports indicate over 50 german divisions destroyed.

More concentration camps found in captured cities.

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	20-06-2003 08:35									#195
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General Pavlov, I do hope you are not over-exerting your front with these victories. Nevertheless, I salute you.


*whispers to self* at least until something goes wrong.

	20-06-2003 08:51									#196
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quote: Originally posted by PinkyGen *whispers to self* at least until something goes wrong.

I think Pavlov's new nickname is going to be teflon man. The victories keeping rolling right off. The Germans roll off him as well.

The reason I say this is because I have expected something to go wrong since I joined late last summer in game turns and it hasn't happened yet.!

Dam good thing he is on our side! He is in frigging Lodz already!

	20-06-2003 09:02									#197
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Thanks comrades, though I must say the germans have been a bit thin in the cities! ie 1 or 2 or even none!

	20-06-2003 13:12									#198
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quote: Originally posted by Colwyn I Have only 2 units in some front line cities! I have taken Vilnius!

I think you're being overly dramatic comrade, yes, Kiev and Lodz have only two units apiece in them, but what the heck were you thinking when you ordered the attacks on those cities??? No defensive unit could keep up with your lighting attack. No amount of reinforcements I could possibly send you would solve your problem of grasping at far away cities.

However, since you feel that you are in so desperate a need for more troops. I order you to halt any attacks in the future until you have my approval while I bring forward more troops.

	20-06-2003 13:59									#199
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Very good job comrade Zangalis. Seeing what you do every turn, I think we could be in Berlin by the end of the year. The only thing you seem to need is a target, troops don't even seem to matter that much The Germans run away when they hear you are coming

	20-06-2003 15:53									#200
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quote: However, since you feel that you are in so desperate a need for more troops. I order you to halt any attacks in the future until you have my approval while I bring forward more troops.

He's doing a good job, HTower. Why don't you let him continue doing his job?

	21-06-2003 03:47									#201
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Yes I agree and will obey Marshal I'll order on pain of death my over eager tanks crews to hold fast for a turn or two so we can reconsilidate our positons.

I did send my battle plan to the Kremlin in advace and completed my primary order which was to attack Vilnius and join with my NW front comrade Anzac.

These forward units where scouts and took the cities because they were so lightly defended.

It will be good when the other fronts join up soon as we'll be able to shorten our front line and there units will be welcome for further insurtions west when the order is given.

	21-06-2003 08:26									#202
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I've just gotten all the front line reports, my units are damaged low on fuel I think this months gains could be lost if the germans counter attack.

I think the invincible belorussian front is going to get some back this german turn.

	21-06-2003 12:41									#203
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quote: Originally posted by Colwyn I think the invincible belorussian front is going to get some back this german turn.

yep, that happens when you advance too far.

	29-06-2003 04:27									#204
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Should I withdraw from Lodz at least for the moment? Without many KV1's and AA's when the german units reapear on this front? It's going to get hammered. I'd rather strengthen/move North-South to link the front than try to hold this city.

Not to say that if a aircraft finds a city open that a scout unit won't enter sell improvements and leave again.

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	29-06-2003 10:22									#205
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Burn what you can, and withdraw.

	03-07-2003 16:21									#206
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Action report for Oct,

Belorussian troops withdraw!!
After a german counter offensive, the belorussian front is slowing down. Forward units from Lodz withdraw back to Warsaw and other offensive units move North and South to take Kracow and Vilnius again.

Lubin protected by Vet 88!! Kayusha's moved up to assist next few turns.

partisans move towards Kiev.

Sorry comrades Berlin won't be taken after all this summer!

The other fronts have made amazing gains in the last few months and are expected to join up with me in the next few months. Maybe together we can crack the german nut.

	03-07-2003 16:24									#207
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	03-07-2003 23:23									#208
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Anything the partisans can do to help around Kiev will be much appreciated.

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quote: Originally posted by Xenozod Anything the partisans can do to help around Kiev will be much appreciated.

This is only my humble opinion but the sooner we can capture and HOLD Kiev the better.

That way we can sell off those Grain Silo's and get more Rubles!

	03-07-2003 23:32									#210
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That's the whole idea.