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Who's next? (Time out:0 days after 06-04-2003, 05:42)
Syria
North Korea
Iran
Saudi Arabia
Cuba
Canada
Colombia
Some Banana Republic I've forgotten the name of.
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Carver is offline Carver
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In Flanders, the communsit party works togheter with the muslim fundamnetalist s , so maybe i'll get stoned too for being a kafir kapitalist


Exactly what does your useage of "kafir" mean?

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Shame - I thought it was a serious question. I'm not trolling or anything like that. The rumblings about Syria have made me wonder.


The way you present the thread, serious and non-troll like as it may be, is what will get it locked. You use harsh and sarcastic words, making the mods very angry. You look very much like a troll, even if you're not.

MichaeltheGreat is offline MichaeltheGreat
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I only posted it because Donald Rumsfeld has been making noises about Syria. I mean Donald Rumsfeld is always making noises, but they are rarely intelligible.


That's because Little Red Rummy-hood has the special talent of talking through all his orifices simultaneously.

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Exactly what does your useage of "kafir" mean?


Kafir = infidel

It's not the same as "kaffir"

VJ is offline VJ
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Is Katar the next target?

Katar = Qatar?

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If Iran sends in irregulars as they have said, then they will go down. Israil is ready to take on Syria if nessary to prevent them from coming to Iran's aid.

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There's lots of evidence that the neo-fascists have set their sights on Syria (even though they haven't publicly admitted that yet). So it appears that Syria is next.

In the mean time North Korea will probably develop a nuclear bomb and sell it to the highest bidder, and the Bush administration will do nothing about it. Apparently, George Bush hasn't been "called by God" to deal with North Korea.

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In the crypto-fascist imperialist war of conquest (or righteous war of liberation and nation building, depending on your view) that is planned by the hawkish members of the Bush administration, it is clear that all the "evildoers" must be punished.

So the question is: which country do you think is next to be flattened/liberated?


I reckon Syria. Obviously there are no WOMDs in Iraq, so they must have been moved to Syria. Those dastardly Syrians! They'll pay for their impertinence! And we know they're in league with Osama bin Laden. What do you mean, evidence? We know it, we don't need any evidence.... God told us.


Syria dosen't need WMDs to be targeted.

Hezbollah is enough.

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I hape that it will be syria, but North Korea is more likely to be the next

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Switzerland!

They make a cheese there, that goes under the category "chemical weapon".

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http://www.newsday.com/news/nationw...dnews-headlines

Looking like Syria's the next focus.

Of course, Syria's army hasn't been buggered by twelve years of sanctions. Hmm.

Still, it would take at least 5 years to get a proper demonization campaign going, and GWB might be gone by then.

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I don't think russian diplomats would appreciate an invasion into Syria. (A country in their diplomatic interest, thus a potential ally). However, Russia would be better off cooperating with OSCE-countries in Europe, and then what? USA will stand there all alone... If Washington would be so selfdestructive as to ruin the diplomatic relations with Moscow and Europe, the cold-war might start all over again, or a real hot one! So IMHO, these hawks in Washington really don't care much about international security and world peace.

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None.

The attack on Iraq was thoroughly prepared, and the demonization campaign was decades old, even though it had to be warmed again a bit. It would be very difficult to justify an attack on Syria out of the blue, simply because US troops are nearby. The chickenhawks would need months, if not years, to convince the American people Assad is the new Hitler, and how much Syria is a rabid bloodthirsty and expansionist regime.
In the meantime, keeping the troops there would cost more and more billions.
I think the Bushies will keep the minimal amount of troops in Iraq, to police the country until the puppet regime has enough authority.
Once the bulk of the troops has left ME, we won't hear about Syria in a long time. Besides, Assad jr. is somehow reformist and knows to behave towards the US when he needs to, so he won't be as annoying for the US as Saddam.

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Damascus

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Syria.
Though George Bush would rather it not be, Syria is going to get whacked next.

Oh, well. Their choice.

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i can't imagine it being Syria...NK makes so much more sense

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Canada's a distant 3rd.

Don't you guys care enough to threaten to invade any more?

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i can't imagine it being Syria...NK makes so much more sense


Yes, it does. Except that Syria is going to force themselves into the fray.
I guess they feel neglected.

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Definately an Arab or oil country probably Syria. Rummy says Syria now has Iraqi chemical weapons, soon he'll say we couldn't find any in Iraq because they're all in Syria.

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This is going to be very funny.

I suppose half of Syria's secret police is moving to Iraq by now.

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US won't even have Britain in Syria.


Highly unlikely that it will happen, although with the present US admin and unless someone starts stirring trouble in Iraq who knows

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ACK!! Just after I voted North Korea I saw Cananda, but it was too late.

We should invade Canada. Moose taste good.

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We're coming after you, Canada, for all the bannanas you stole from us.


Mr. Fun:

You had your chance and failed...

Vietnam was just another Canada.

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Syria or Iran most likely. North Korea won't be invaded. Not unless Bush wants a Nuclear exchange.

MONKSPIDER... IT'S IRAN FOR PETE'S SAKE!

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Iraq was a dictatorship, with a genocidal leader... Syria is not.
What rhetorics could Bush use to get any domestic support in USA?

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Syria is just as oppressive. So is Saudi Arabia BTW.

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Syria is far less oppressive than Iraq. I have just spent an hour reading on Syria (old articles, which date back before the hype), and the conclusion is clear : there is no comparison between Bachar's Syria and Saddam's Iraq.

The accession of Bachar at power in 2000 raised high hopes of a democratization. Free speech was high, and some old opponents (like Riyad Turk, the historical leader of the communist party) were freed from jail after 15 years. Some opponents even got elected in the Syrian Parliament.

However, this hope has been destroyed by the end of 2001, when two elected opponents were jailed (including Mr Turk). Today, the Baath party remains the only party allowed, and structurates the whole society with youth organizations, and labour organizations.
Despite an initial struggle against corruption (which can be confused with a struggle against high-ranked opponents to Bachar), corruption is now as high as ever. The power structure is paralyzed, because only personal friends of Bachar, or officials' children can hope to access a responsibility position. Almost all of Bachar's clan is made of Alaoui Muslims, who are only 10% of the population, in comparison with 2/3rd of Sunnis.

However, a few goods have come from 2 years of Bachar's reign : there are no more massive political arrests, these have become targeted and rare. Lebanon is a place of relative freedom of speech for opponents. An important modernization has taken place, with a new importance given to new technologies. The strategy of allying with the Sunni elites continues. Syria has withdrawn an old demand towards Israel, making peace deals more plausible. Some protests may now emerge without being monitored / initated by the Baath. Besides, like Iraq, the government doesn't enforce a strict religious policy, and many of the Syrian rich youth can go clubbing, for example.

The whole point is : Sure, Syria is an hereditary "Republic". Sure, there are political prisoners. But it is an ordinary authoritarian regime, where opponents are sent to jail, where there is no random torture, where the people can live rather freely. It is not Saddam's cruel and bloody dictatorship. Bachar's power lies on the population's apathy, unlike Saddam's which was based on sole fear.

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Iraq was a dictatorship, with a genocidal leader... Syria is not.
What rhetorics could Bush use to get any domestic support in USA?

Bush could say how Syria is a terrible and dangerous expansionist power which threatens the region. To do this, they'll use ad nauseam the annexion of Lebanon by Syria (conveniently forgetting the many reasons besides expansionism why this annexation took place).
Bush could also use ad nauseam the political prisoners to explain the great American Democracy cannot tolerate such a thing. His team could find one or two political murders, and they'll exaggerate enough for the public to believe Bachar is a genocidial maniac.
Lastly, Bush could pretend Saddam has given all his Wommdies to Bachar so that he can avenge his death on the American people.

 
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