17-04-2003 21:26									#31
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*Wily Morganites corner Energy Market while Hive and University bomb each other into the stone age*

Gotta keep your eyes on the prize, fellaz.

	18-04-2003 01:32									#32
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* Yang transcends


I win

	18-04-2003 04:03									#33
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* Uni transcends first


Sure you win?

	18-04-2003 04:12									#34
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Morgan, but Yang is up there (assuming im not playin as him of course )

	18-04-2003 09:23									#35
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It's surprising how you portray the Uni and the Hive as enemies.

For me, I'd have thought they'd be natural allies. Yang and Zakharov both have a non-democratic moral code and neither seems particularly fussed about human rights issues.

I played a PBEM as Yang and Misotu was my guide and ally as Zak. After the game was over, Misotu did mention that the choice of factions was somewhat unfair, as Hive + Uni pacted is almost overly powerful.

	18-04-2003 09:40									#36
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What kind of forum is this now?

* Qualicide recalls the Cheese Dong hating days, way back when..

	18-04-2003 17:06									#37
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~Grin~ Hey, Allinestra, blame that Greedy, money grubbing, probe framing, Morgan for that one! ~Nudges Yang~ Shall we have a Morgan fest? Say each of us gets half his bases? ~Begins to call in the Morgan haters~

~Shrugs~ Waht can we say, Qualicide. When the Minions of Yang are let out, chaos ensues. Time to nerve staple the people.

As for my least favorite faction, either the Pirates, Miriam, or Santiago. They either hate my faction or are too much of a nuisance, so out come the choppers & rovers. (unless I am playing Yang, in which case it is anybody that I can't make a submissive!)

	18-04-2003 17:41									#38
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~Shrugs~ Also, the aliens make great foes in SP. ~WEG~ This is going to be a bug hunt!

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	21-04-2003 07:48									#39
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Mine is Lal. I'm always his enemy because he sucks llamas. i get money after i capture his tiny bases.

	01-05-2003 00:10									#40
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I hate Lal because of his human rights and demoncracy.
I hate Morgan because of his capitalism.

but I really DO HATE Yang because he is just plain Evil.

	01-05-2003 00:37									#41
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Well, if you're a Western citizen who has lived in a country that has a history of democratic rule and whose education system and legal institutions have been shaped by centuries of philosophy stressing the individual over the group, then I suppose your view is understandable.

If you're an Eastern citizen who has lived in a country with a rich history of culture and civilization, albeit under nearly exclusively authoritarian rule throughout 6000 years, and whose education and legal systems have been influenced by group and social philosophies predating Christ that place the group above the individual, then maybe the Chairman's philosophy (and that of Chairman Mao, and those of the Emperors before him) would cause you less moral outrage.

If the contrast between these two views makes your head hurt, then you're just like me - a confused in-betweener.

There was a thread from years ago in which I courted controversy by daring to defend the Chairman's philosophy. It's very out of date and my own opinion on the matter has definitely undergone significant revision since then, but it might serve as an interesting place to start for those of you who are interested. (Searching for URL - hope it hasn't been deleted yet.)

For those of you who are content with the philosophical equation

"Chinese+authoritarian+'Chairman' = EVILCOMMIE-DIE-DIE-DIE!!!"

however, I suspect you probably won't have the patience or interest to go through that thread and in any case, your present frame of mind is probably very comfortable wherever it is right now...

	01-05-2003 13:29									#42
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Let's not get this thread into a culture vs. culture debate!

	01-05-2003 14:16									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia Well, if you're a Western citizen who has lived in a country that has a history of democratic rule and whose education system and legal institutions have been shaped by centuries of philosophy stressing the individual over the group, then I suppose your view is understandable. If you're an Eastern citizen who has lived in a country with a rich history of culture and civilization, albeit under nearly exclusively authoritarian rule throughout 6000 years, and whose education and legal systems have been influenced by group and social philosophies predating Christ that place the group above the individual, then maybe the Chairman's philosophy (and that of Chairman Mao, and those of the Emperors before him) would cause you less moral outrage.

I see your point.

	01-05-2003 15:36									#44
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I'm glad I live in a culture that has more asian-influence...but some Western spice to kick it up a notch!

BAM!!!!

	01-05-2003 17:49									#45
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i find miriam as the ultimate foe to me yanginess.

	01-05-2003 18:00									#46
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Noone actually likes Miriam at all do they? What a surprise

-Jam

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I don't usually play Yang. I'm just too liberal / anarchistic / sea-base centric. And communism is a better system than capitalism; it's just that no-one's really been able to successfully integrate communism with democracy. They're really not that different - except for the fact that communist countries tend to wind up with a ruling elite and such, rather than sticking to their original ideals. Or something like that. My brain's addled from studying this stuff for finals.

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quote: Originally posted by War of Art Noone actually likes Miriam at all do they? What a surprise -Jam

Actually, _I_ like Miriam, I've issued plenty of posts pointing out their relative merits to the many Miriam-haters that post to this board. I just like Morgan better.

quote: Originally posted by Uchuu-kun[SM42] communism is a better system than capitalism

Careful, hehe, I have a history of starting flame-wars over unsupported proclaimations of the superiority of communism/collectivism.

	01-05-2003 23:35									#49
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~WEG~ Well, Miriam is a powerful foe in SP, especially if you start near her. ~Grimace~ I once had Miriam, Yang, & Lai within 12 squares of my starting position. Needless to say, it was a short game. ~Grumble~ Dang backstabbing Peacekeepers!

	02-05-2003 09:41									#50
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Capitalist Communism might work, and a current adventure into Communist Capitalism is showing some serious validation.
If I have that backward please correct me gently. I've been keeping myself selectively uninformed of late.

	02-05-2003 13:20									#51
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China seems to be working nicely...even with it's flaws. (but lets stay away from politics in this thread )

I've found a renewed hatred for Miriam and Santiago...as well as Morgan. Punks triple-teamed me.

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quote: Originally posted by MRT144 i find miriam as the ultimate foe to me yanginess.

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Yang. Really tough in the early going.

Miriam, though, will always use a PB as soon as she is able. (In recent games at least. I went for more than a year with no one using PBs. But recently, I have been play games with all option "on." The AI can be very aggressive in this mode.

	18-05-2003 23:50									#54
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I would have to say lal cause early on i make friends with him so he manages to cut me off from the rest of the map and then he describes my research as unethical(i always play as university, which also has the effect that im using clean sinularity planet busters before my opponent has fusion power) and attacks me.

of course i kill him easy but while im busy with him yang sneaks in and captures 3 of my bases.

	23-05-2003 22:08									#55
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I agree with Ned about Yang. If he moves into your neighborhood and starts poopin' out bases with PDs, a perfectly good gameplan can be ruined in a hurry.