26-04-2003 19:14									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon I take it that some people here can drag themselves from their computers long enough to read a good old fashioned book.

So you've never heard of ebooks?

I have well over 2000 titles on my hardrive at the moment, mainly sci-fi.

	26-04-2003 19:31									#32
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Just finished Bush at war by Bob Woodward. Good document on the decision process of the Bush administration, and incidentally a picture of the President. Both are frightening.

Ils vont tuer le capitalisme (they will kill the capitalism)by Claude Bébéar (President of AXA) : a qualified opinion on the responsibilities held by auditors, rating agencies, bankers, members of the boards, SEC, on the recent stock exchange disaster.

Black holes and time warps by Kip S. Thorne : not recent but also interesting by many stories about scientists engaged in this field.

	26-04-2003 19:56									#33
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Rise and Fall of the Third Reich - William Shirer.

Picking up The Boys from Brazil by Ira Levin from the used bookshop today.

	27-04-2003 01:33									#34
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quote: I'm also reading another book at the same time, almost finished, it's called 'mostarin tien liftarit'. Translates to 'hichhikers of the Mostar(i?) road'. It's about finnish merc who went to fight in Kosovo.. pretty good book.

Do not take any directions from it. Mostar is in Bosnia and some 500km west of Kosovo

	27-04-2003 01:37									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Willem So you've never heard of ebooks? I have well over 2000 titles on my hardrive at the moment, mainly sci-fi.

Same here(except that I have 3000 ).

We need to do some sharing.

	27-04-2003 01:37									#36
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As for myself: George R. R. Martin: Game of thrones. I am not a huge fantasy fan, but they say it is very good. Btw., the author is pretty cool guy, I have seen his lecture in the scifi convention in my city today. Tommorow he will be doing some reading from a yet unpublished book.

	27-04-2003 01:44									#37
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quote: Same here(except that I have 3000

When I found about IRC bookz channels I first went "wow" I need this and this and that.. but actually I don't Who can read that much?

IRC seems like a fairly stable system and they can not shut it down, so if need arises I can easily go online and find something.

	27-04-2003 02:18									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Same here(except that I have 3000 ). We need to do some sharing.

We'd have to do it soon, I might be offline for awhile after next month, starting in June. I'll be moving and I'm not sure if I'll be able afford all the hookup fees for DSL right away. And there's no way I'm going back to dial up, I'd rather stay offline. PM me.

	27-04-2003 02:31									#39
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion quote: Same here(except that I have 3000 When I found about IRC bookz channels I first went "wow" I need this and this and that.. but actually I don't Who can read that much? IRC seems like a fairly stable system and they can not shut it down, so if need arises I can easily go online and find something.

Yes, but what if an asteroid hits Earth? This way you'll be another source/backup for all that endless knowledge.

Willem - I'll PM you tommorow.

	27-04-2003 02:59									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Eli Willem - I'll PM you tommorow.

Sounds good. I'm in the process of RARing my folder right now to see how much it will all come to compressed. The folder itself was 871 meg.

It might be best to swap lists first, in case of duplication. That sounds like alot of tedious work, but I guess I'll have to get around to doing it sooner or later. We'll work something out tomorrow.

	27-04-2003 03:46									#41
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Required reading for World History 209 - 1500 to the Industrial Revolution (aproximatly cause we're a little behind):

Right now = Geraldine Brooks' Nine Parts of Desire: The Hidden World of Islamic Women

Before that = Ngugi wa Thinog'o's A River Between

And before that = 47 Ronin Story

	27-04-2003 03:54									#42
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"War and Peace" by Tolstoy
"Intro to Quantum Mechanics" by Griffiths (going through the book for the final)

	27-04-2003 03:58									#43
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quote: What are you reading right now?

This thread?

	27-04-2003 12:22									#44
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Zelazny's Madwand.

	27-04-2003 12:58									#45
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No fewer than four books, at least one of which I will have to stop reading for a while:

The Story of Civilization I: Our Oriental Heritage by Will Durant
The Last Temptation of Christ by Nikos Kazantzakis
Josiah Henson's autobiography, I forget the title
Five Days in London, May 1940 by John Luckacs

	27-04-2003 13:54									#46
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When I'm not reading my textbooks, I'm readying:

"The Criminal Elite: Understanding White-Collar Crime"
by James William Coleman

"The 48 Laws of Power" by Robert Greene

"The Testosteron Advantage" by Lou Schuler

and

"The Code of the Samurai" translated by A. L. Sadler.


These are books where you each section stands alone so I can flip through them to the revelant (or interesting) chapters.

	27-04-2003 14:08									#47
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'Navies of the Napoleonic Era' Full of details of various ship types (ships of the line, frigates, sloops) and strengths (totals and condition of each ship of each type) of the different navies throughout the period. Also accounts of sea battles.

Did you know that when the Shannon took the Chesapeake (sp) that the Shannon had 52 guns to Ches's 32?

No wonder the Brits finally won one.

Also, by the end of the 1812 war that the US had built 3 ships of the line?

Need the figures for frigates laid up in ordinary or ships of the line with yards crossed at the creation of the Batavian Republic?

No?

	27-04-2003 14:34									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon "Guns, Germs and Steel" by Jared Diamond

Exactly the same

	27-04-2003 14:42									#49
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I'm sitting with Barry Buzan's "People, States and Fear" in my lap as I type this. It's a pile of cack.

Proper book, for enjoyment: Since it's exam-and-essay week, nothing since about monday. Back then it was "The Master and Margarita" by Mikhail Bulgakov.

Also: daily newspapers (I need some sort of break!) and heat magazine on wednesday.

	27-04-2003 14:48									#50
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"Dune:The Butlerian Jihad" by Brian Herbert (Frank Herbert's son) and the Sci-Fi legend Kevin Anderson

Set 10,000 year before the movie. Starts buring the revolt against the thinking machines. Explains the legends of Arrakis, the Bene Gesserit, the Spacing Guilds, the Mentats, the reason for the hate between House Harkonnen and House Atreides and much more that I haven't even begun to read yet.

	28-04-2003 02:38									#51
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Brian Herbert deserves to be drawn, shot, quartered, boiled alive, tarred and feathered, hanged, and gas chambered for what he has done with his father's universe. He has managed to prove to the world that Chris Tolkien is not that bad of a chap.

"Guns, Germs and Steel" by Jared Diamond

Great book.

	28-04-2003 03:29									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Immortal Wombat Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment. again. Can't seem to sustain interest long enough to finish the bugger.

Best. Novel. Ever.

Well, that's a matter of opinion, but it's my favourite anyway. Read it.

Seriously, though, stop reading it if it doesn't sustain your interest, dude. Unless you have to read it for a class...

	28-04-2003 03:41									#53
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo Brian Herbert deserves to be drawn, shot, quartered, boiled alive, tarred and feathered, hanged, and gas chambered for what he has done with his father's universe.

True.

	28-04-2003 03:45									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Immortal Wombat Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment. again. Can't seem to sustain interest long enough to finish the bugger.

Man that's probably the best structured and most accessible of the great 4.

Try "The Devils" the first 300 pages of that is a complete snore. Then Stavrogin comes on the seen.

	28-04-2003 08:01									#55
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo Brian Herbert deserves to be drawn, shot, quartered, boiled alive, tarred and feathered, hanged, and gas chambered for what he has done with his father's universe.

Well, I haven't read any of the "House" books, so I am not sure what happened to those, but with the SF brilliance of Kevin Anderson, you still might want to give it a try...

	28-04-2003 09:46									#56
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when I read a book I read a book

as in I read it straight through without stopping

sometimes I ready a couple

last time I read for fun, I read 2 of stephen Brusts books

I was bored at 2 am and did not want to go to sleep, so I read until morning

Jon Miller

	28-04-2003 10:05									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Mr. Oobir No fewer than four books, at least one of which I will have to stop reading for a while: The Story of Civilization I: Our Oriental Heritage by Will Durant

Is this about Asia or the Middle East? Is it any good?

	28-04-2003 10:08									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac "Children of the Mind". JohnT's bookclub brought me on ideas.

Same here. I've started and stopped a couple of times. There's a lot of esoteric stuff that I find boring.

	28-04-2003 10:23									#59
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well..for the past semester, i've been reading nothing but Lord Byron...i'm taking a class on it..i have to eat, breathe, drink Lord Byron...and then i just finished up my research paper on the stupid bastard...i really don't like him now...cause he's EVERYWHERE!