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São Paulo Brazil
Apr 2002
time: 02:27
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As far as I know (which it isn´t much) Menem had a good deal of responsability towards the situation Argentina is today. Although he adopted some measures towards free market, he didn´t control goverment spending, which lead to the present situation.
Here in Brazil we had some right wing politicians who joined the worst of both sides. Paulo Maluf (mayor of São Paulo) is the best exemple of a person which every single attitute as a political man lead to disaster. Some decades ago he screwed up the healthcare system (shut down 3 hospitals - remember that brazilian public hospitals are perpetually overcrowded) to direct all the city hall resourses in the construction of an absurd highway which name in english would be "big worm", for it´s odd sinuous shape, because it went over an avenue in a densely populated district. Don´t have to say what happened to the hundreds of buildings that had a very intense traffic flow 5 meters from it´s windows. That alone it would be bad, but it gets worse, because he left the city´s economy drowned in debts, because of rampant corruption (a regular avenue built by him only loses in $ per kilometer built to the english channel tunnel). We have really bad exemples from right wing politicians here.
So while I think it's ok the right wing that decreases the state, improve national finances and promotes economic growth, I am horrified by politicians that insert subjetive moral values into the state, like religion (and I´m a very religious man) or screw up finances by increasing deficits while decreasing social benefits. Hard liners that defends violence as a mean to solve problems are also disliked by me. Paulo Maluf whom I wrote before defends a police as gentle as Gestapo to deal with the rampant violence seen in Brazil that results from having close together rich neighborhoods with settlements holding millions of miserable people with no education, therefore no job in today´s world, which the only occupation left is to rape one another and use drugs (the reality is a bit worse than that due to my bad english - my mother works in such places as a doctor and she tells me terrifying stories).
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Al'Kimiya
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Authoritarian Right
... and to be liberal is not to be left, just misguided.
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cinch
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Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Jul 2002
time: 22:27
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Obi:
http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/spec3/RTGAM/20021129/wroma1129ro/SpecialEvents3/romanowBN/breakingnews
The Alliance isn't rabidly opposed to it in principle, but it doesn't want to raise taxes, which (the Alliance says) would be necessary to implement the changes.
EDIT: Okay, that link doesn't work for some reason, so here's an excerpt from the article:
Show us money for Romanow, Alliance demands
By ALLISON DUNFIELD
Globe and Mail Update
The Opposition Canadian Alliance pressed the Liberals on Friday to show Canadians where the money will come from to implement Roy Romanow's $15-million plan to improve health care.
Alliance MP Chuck Strahl warned that it was not likely the government could do so without tax increases.
The Alliance put the screws to the Liberals during Question Period on Friday by asking the federal government how it will fund the recommendations, when Finance Minister John Manley has earmarked only $14.4-billion for new initiatives of any kind between now and 2006. That is the same period for which Mr. Romanow recommended funding for health care be increased by $15-billion.
"The projected surplus is $14-billion. How can they possibly pay for this wish list without increasing taxes?" Alliance MP Chuck Strahl asked in the Commons.
"My colleague [Mr. Manley] has been fairly clear. Canadians do not want their taxes increased," Health Minister Anne McLellan replied.
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The more I read up on it, though, the more I see that basically every opposition party has problems with Romanow:
-the Alliance & PCs think it's too hard on private clinics
-the NDP thinks it's too open to private clinics
Feh. Everyone hates everything. I give up.
Natural Law it is!
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cinch
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Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Jul 2002
time: 22:27
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Obi:
Here's a better one:
From CBC.ca:
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Harper says Romanow report 'entirely wrong'
Last Updated Thu, 28 Nov 2002 22:54:28
OTTAWA - The leader of the Opposition says Roy Romanow's prescription for the health care system is "entirely wrong." Canadian Alliance Leader Stephen Harper called the recommendations "pie in the sky."
Health Minister Anne McLellan said Canadians aren't interested fighting anymore, that they want the federal and provincial governments to figure out how to make the health system better.
"Canadians have sent … a very clear message that they want this system fixed."
McLellan said it is too soon to say how much money Ottawa will put into the system and on what timetable.
New Democrat health critic Judy Wasylycia-Leis said the report's release marks "a great day for Canadians."
With the funding recommendations contained in the report, governments can stop the "squabble over money," said Liberal MP Carolyn Bennett.
NDP Leader Alexa McDonough said the report marks a turning point in the renewal of health care in Canada. "It puts behind us the ideological battles and puts before us a solid prescription and a treatment plan that can be implemented with the urgency that's needed," she said.
The inclusion of issues affecting aboriginal people such as housing and education is a good sign, said Matthew Coon Come, national chief of the Assembly of First Nations. "The report itself ties in economic conditions to health," he said.
But with the exception of a few details about putting more money into the system, Harper rejected the report.
"This is entirely the wrong direction," Harper said.
"The direction of this report, the making the system less flexible, moving to banning alternative delivery, to trying to dictate to the provinces the expansion of the system in a whole bunch of targeted boutique ways, all of these ways are completely unhelpful and unrealistic."
Prime Minister Jean Chrétien wasn't available for comment on Thursday. The Prime Minister's Office did release a statement.
In it, Chrétien said: "The Romanow Report and other recent studies will provide a strong foundation for a long-term plan of action based on responsible spending for change. We are prepared to work closely with our partners, the provinces and territories."
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http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2002/11/28/romanow_reax021128
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28-04-2003 08:04
)... I can't imagine a fool handling tough negotiations as President of the biggest sindicate of South America, under a dictatorship, or leading a party like the Worker's Party here, with a lot of tendencies and groups (some of them very, very radical ones... I'm sure Odd can confirm that), or win a presidential election in a country with a very young democracy (we're not in Europe, Fez... even if Spain has a young democracy, the things are very different ), and very conservative people...
Heh... I don't care... my love life... 
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