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The friend did what I would do--if I found out a friend of mine's S.o. had ****ed someone else and wasn't honest about it, damned right I'd tell my friend.
M was perfectly right in being furious. It wasn't like there was a threat of death or anything. He could have tried to be a little more understanding, but considering she wasn't up front with him, too bad for her.
B was being a jackass for doubling the fare, but it seems odd he would do so, since L has NO money anyway. He could have given her a freebie to get to M and then maybe gotten payment from M?
S is immoral for taking advantage of someone to get laid, but considering how willing the person is, I have a hard time faulting him too much.
L acted out of impatience. She rather casually ****s someone else to get the money (so she whores herself out) to go be with M. Did she try other means? Did she think twice about it? What a tart.
Last edited by Boris Godunov on 27-04-2003 at 05:02
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It doesn't matter what your name is!
Feb 2000
time: 00:27
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B - doubling his price shows he's a greedy bastard, but he's only indirectly responsible at most for anything else. Doubling the price is not irrelevant because she's broke, it aggravates the situation, by presenting her with an even greater barrier to getting across. Perhaps at the normal fare, she would have had another alternative. |
As far as the story goes, there was no other alternative regardless of what the price is, so I don't see how him doubling the fare matters at all.
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F - Facts are absolute, truth is not. If F knew the entire situation, F should have had the good sense to shut the **** up. |
Why? I'd want to know. Telling the truth does not equal immorality, even if it has bad timing or cause problems.
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It wasn't infidelity, it was exploitation and coercion. |
No, she entered both contracts willingly! It was infidelity, because she didn't have to but chose to, even if it was to be with him. That's still a choice she made. Ends don't justify means.
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If F did not know the entire situation, F might be alright in telling M, (though it's still not his business without knowing what was going on), but should have been very clear on what F knew and didn't know. |
It doesn't say that F only told M that he was cheated on. You've inferred this. I don't think it's fair to make this assumption.
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S - coercive little gobshite taking advantage of L's problem for his own game. Cut off his balls and feed them to him, then tie him up in the bottom of B's boat, so he'll get to drown after it sinks. |
Technically, this is also inferred. You could just as easily make a case that S new nothing of the situation, and was simply offering money for sex...just so happens he was offering the price she needed. Even assuming that he did know, and offered the money for sex, it's his right to do so. He doesn't have to give his money away, and obviously she was willing so it was both a fair and equal trade, and he has done nothing wrong.
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It doesn't matter what your name is!
Feb 2000
time: 00:27
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I think that a one size fits all mentality. I can think of hundreds of situations where telling the truth is immoral. Insider trading, to deliberately cause embarrassment, stirring trouble, to gain advantage from the reaction of people to the truth etc... |
Insider trading isn't 'honesty'. It's more than that. It's honesty to some, and dishonesty to many.
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If she was not able to get back, do you think it would be worth her or her man's while remaining celibate indefinitely, not knowing if she would ever be able to return? |
Where in the story does it specifically say that there are no other options?
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A man (M) and a lady (L) who are very much in love, and devoted to one another are separated by a river with no way of getting across to the other side. |
But obviously there is, because the very next line is...
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On L's side of the river, there is a boatman (B) who is able to take her over to the other side of the river but refuses to do so unless she pays him a price of $100, twice his normal fare. |
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L has no money. Another man (S) then tells L that he will giver her $100 if she sleeps with him. L agrees to do so and on receiving the $100, pays B who takes her over to the other side of the river. |
It never says that this is the only choice, or that she grudgingly goes along with it after exhausting all other options. I fear you've read a bit too much into the story in an effort to glorify the one who is acting immorally.
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MRT144
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Seattle Washington
Oct 2002
time: 21:27
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MRT144
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Seattle Washington
Oct 2002
time: 21:27
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the thing i dont understand is how so many people are ranking L above M. If L shot ronald reagan im sure you would lowered her maybe a notch or two. its the same concept, doing anything to be with your love no matter how misguided and wrong it is.
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