29-04-2003 18:55									#31
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IMO, one should pay attention to as many news sources as possible. The truth is somewhere in the middle.

	29-04-2003 18:56									#32
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX what do you expect? they all can't be from the north.

	29-04-2003 18:59									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Just because one watches CNN or Fox doesn't make you "ignorant"... I found myself watching both channels to get the "visuals"... I just didn't fall hook line and sinker for their spin. I went to other new's sources to get a more balanced view.

But, IMO, JUST watching Fox and basing all your opinion on that channel does. Fox cultivates ignorant people like a farmer cultivates his land.

	29-04-2003 19:01									#34
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I watched Fox part of the time too. I found it quite humorous. Generalizations cultivate ignornance too.

RAH

	29-04-2003 19:08									#35
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I watched the BBC coverage of the war with sprinklings of the Sky News coverage and used online newspapers like the telegraph & guardian, and finally CNN europe.com.

i think i got a pretty good variety of coverage and managed to avoid any bias

	29-04-2003 19:08									#36
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It shows that America continues its move to the center (FOX) from the extreme left.(CNN)

	29-04-2003 19:13									#37
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quote: Originally posted by rah I watched Fox part of the time too. I found it quite humorous. Generalizations cultivate ignornance too.

I know you aiming me Rah, I have my views and you have yours.

But what I underline in your post is

quote: I watched Fox part of the time too. I found it quite humorous.

What I am saying exactly. Some people dont find it humorous, some people really buy it. And imagine, Fox had bigger ratings.

I know you understand what I'm saying.

SPec.

	29-04-2003 19:15									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer It shows that America continues its move to the center (FOX) from the extreme left.(CNN)

	29-04-2003 19:17									#39
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I understand what you're saying, I just don't agree with it. I know a lot of people that watch it, but also view other channels and actually *gasp* read newspapers.

I just think it's a stretch to say that since it's #1, it's further proof how stupid americans are.

	29-04-2003 19:20									#41
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quote: Originally posted by rah I just think it's a stretch to say that since it's #1, it's further proof how stupid americans are.

I dont.

And again, not stupid, ignorant.

People are born stupid, but people are kept ignorant.

Americans are not stupid, the majority is just un/missinformed, thus, kept ignorant.

Spec.

	29-04-2003 19:23									#42
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Are you claiming anything better north of the border or anywhere else?

	29-04-2003 19:26									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Spec I dont. And again, not stupid, ignorant. People are born stupid, but people are kept ignorant. Americans are not stupid, the majority is just un/missinformed, thus, kept ignorant. Spec.

I appreciate what you are saying and its true but Americans do tend to blur the line more than other nationalities

	29-04-2003 19:28									#44
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You guys should watch CNN. Look at Peter Arnett, America hater, CNN corospondent. Accident? No, design...

Americans are wise and see through their agenda, and have left them in droves for FOX, and FAIR and BALANCED centrist reporting.

	29-04-2003 19:29									#45
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And more and more the US media will start ressembling FOX since it is so popular there!

	29-04-2003 19:29									#46
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quote: Originally posted by rah Are you claiming anything better north of the border or anywhere else?

Better as in? Channels? People?

	29-04-2003 19:33									#47
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paiktis, it's a natural evolution. Americans are normally positive and patriotic. We've just been suffering from Vietnam/Nixon syndrome. That's ending and things are returning to normal.

	29-04-2003 19:33									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Americans are wise and see through their agenda, and have left them in droves for FOX, and FAIR and BALANCED centrist reporting.

Fox... Fair... Balanced...



OH PLEASE....

	29-04-2003 19:35									#49
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lancer, of course it's a natural evolution

	29-04-2003 19:38									#50
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Also Paiktis, who watches FOX? Just the republicans? No, moderates of both democrats and republicans. Do you believe that you could win the ratings race without both? So the moderate democrats are making their choice, leaving behind the extreme left news network, and moving to the centrist network.

It takes both sides to make a majority, both sides in the center...

	29-04-2003 19:38									#51
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of course!

	29-04-2003 19:39									#52
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just goes to show that centre in the US means extreme right wing

	29-04-2003 19:39									#53
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Lancer is hillarious when he's in this form.

BTW you can be patriotic and a vicious critic of government policy. In fact the two probably go together more times than you get a patriot who's supportive of government policy.

	29-04-2003 19:40									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer You guys should watch CNN. Look at Peter Arnett, America hater, CNN corospondent. Accident? No, design... Americans are wise and see through their agenda, and have left them in droves for FOX, and FAIR and BALANCED centrist reporting.

That cuts both ways. Even if Arnett is an "America hater", there are plenty of others on CNN who are very much pro-America. Can you name one reporter on FOX who is anything but extremely pro-America and/or right wing? Using your own logic, wouldn't that make FOX a bastion of fascism?

	29-04-2003 19:43									#56
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from what I'm hearing Fox is only popular because it tells people what they want to hear rather than the news itself.

	29-04-2003 19:44									#57
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You must have no idea of the history of fascism.

	29-04-2003 19:44									#58
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US now is like Muscolini's Italy (and equally funny )

	29-04-2003 19:47									#59
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Well, I just took 2 lorazepam 1mg. Hopefully the last trip to the dentist for my root canal.

My point is that my posts may fall off a bit soon.

	29-04-2003 19:48									#60
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craaaap! I have a denstist appointment today