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Aren't the Germans crossing the Don, isn't the title of this June "Bridge Over the River Don."

Halt the German advance, and especially kill that damm pontoon bridge. It seems presumptious and somewhat hubritical (not a word, but we speak Russian anyway) to talk of an offensive this early. If the bridge dies, and the Germans seem weak, then we can go ahead.

However, it seems a good offensive plan, which will eventually have to be implemented if we are to win this war and take the fight out of Soviet territory. I am glad you two are coordinating something to do when we presumbly would beat off this offensive, which I believe will happen.

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defense of Kursk!!!
yes, i´ve decided to hold kursk, I don´t know how easy it is going ot be but we need to have those fortifications positions there so I will try to defend that city, there are still a lot of months left but with 3 or 4 KV-1 the sturmovik killing a few nazis and a whole regiment of NKVD troops there should be ok,

but to accomplish this I need the help of our beloved comrade Colwyn, now that Minsk it is a soviet city we should expect more help from our friend

keep up the good work citizens

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defense of Kursk!!!

but to accomplish this I need the help of our beloved comrade Colwyn, now that Minsk it is a soviet city we should expect more help from our friend

keep up the good work citizens


I will help many of my ground units are at your front already.

I think you will find that the Sturmoviks will do the job of 10 ground divisions.

My tanks are only one move away, they will be there if needed

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Pravda reporters are eager to see this new offensive succeed.

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We might even send a reporter to Kursk next month, this month our reporter is headed to the newly liberated city of Minsk.

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We might even send a reporter to Kursk next month, this month our reporter is headed to the newly liberated city of Minsk.

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august 1942
lutwaffe had a major defeat near kursk, 6 planes were killed with just one la-5

the cities at the don are safe enough
Serafimovich and Vorozneh doesn´t look like we should worry about them

and Kurk with two aa and aroud a dozen tanks will hold,
this winter i´ll meet you at kiev

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I took the basic plan posted above by FiGu as the currently agreed upon plan (I think) and overlayed a variant of the plan that includes the eventual capture of Kiev The red and black are FiGu's plan, the blue plan is mine. The 2nd Ukranian Front doesn't change it's plan, it is the 1st Ukranian that gets altered.

Instead of using the tanks sitting in Kursk to seize Belgorod, Kharkov and Poltava, we send most of them west through Gomel towards Kiev, on leaving behind enough tanks to secure Belgorod. The army that takes Kharkov and Poltava will come from Voronezh and Serafmovich.

I think that although my plan is somewhat riskier, it will get us into Kiev sooner than if we have to go through Kharkov and poltava first.

The problem with the both plans is the destroyed roads in the Ukraine, it's going to slow us down, I've marked the the map with yellow dots where we would have to build new roads to speed up the plan. Now the dot between Gomel and Kursk we can ignore, it won't leave our troops in German sights if we slow down there. The trick is near Kiev where the roads are terrible.

Possible timeline for the advances:
September
Belgorod attack (move units from Serafmovich and Voronezh forward for attack on Kharkov)
October
Attack Kharkov
Begin attack on Kherson and Zaporozhye
November
Winter arrives!
Finish off Kharkov
Advance on Stalino and Voroshilovgrad
Continue against Kherson and Zaporozhye
Begin advance on Kiev from Gomel

I don't dare go farther than that in setting a possible timeline, something may wrong, distances are too great or we run into a unexpected pocket of severe German resistance.

I'm looking forward to seeing my commanders laugh at my plan and telling me I'm crazy

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this winter i´ll meet you at kiev


I plan to be there this summer to enjoy the fruits of the city.

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I plan to be there this summer to enjoy the fruits of the city.


Well, a little competition of who can get there first shouldn't hurt too much and might prove interesting, but I don't want either you or comrade Naldeyev ignoring the rest of your fronts to race for Kiev.

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lutwaffe had a major defeat near kursk, 6 planes were killed with just one la-5



thats really good, if you knock out the Lutwafee the game is a lot easier.

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Comrade Oleg, there is one Strongpoint in southern of Voroshilovgrad, it might be a problem..

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I plan to be there this summer to enjoy the fruits of the city.


I think you should let shaka take the city, it would be good if we would have own "territorys" of those cities that we are going to capture in the Reich.

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Well, a little competition of who can get there first shouldn't hurt too much and might prove interesting, but I don't want either you or comrade Naldeyev ignoring the rest of your fronts to race for Kiev.


don't worry marshall

i like your plan, and don´t worry about the roads ,we have a few labor brigade there so it shouldn't be a problem

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The next question is, what is needed in addition to your own forces to pull this off?

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a few katyushas it is all I will need, with the ones I can rush buy it should be ok

colwyn told me he was going to send a few siberians for gomel and kiev
he can use them because in winter they will cross the marshes without a problem

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Attack shaka you have over 30 armoured divisions now and many have been upgraded to the new t-34/85,

Belograd and Kharkov cannot stand against your might hit them with your Sturmoviks move your tanks in and then settle the planes in the newly captured cities.

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Note: divisions newly equiped with T-34/85s are still getting used to their new tanks and can't be considered "Veterains" anymore. Suggest you bloody them against soft targets in the open before taking on more difficult enemies.

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With a attack str of 11 unvet they still are a match for all but the toughest targets, as grenny says on the way wet their teeth with a inf unit or weak tanks.

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kharkov and Belgorod has fallen, next turn poltava will be ours
comrade figu, what do you want me to do?
do I keep going or do I help you with your front??

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Great work Shemir! With Kharkov in soviet hands the Kharkov to Minsk road is available to us, if you can move a unit or two to Kiev at some point I'll hand the city back to your troops.

Figu's front is huge, lots of nazi's are there, I guess what you and I can do Shemir is to pick off german units in the open.

once again a great victory taking Kharkov!

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kharkov and Belgorod has fallen, next turn poltava will be ours
comrade figu, what do you want me to do?
do I keep going or do I help you with your front??

Hmm.. I could need some air support against Stalino and the city next to it.

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I'll do whatevery is at my hand then

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I'll post the results from my turn.

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good luck fighting the fascists comrade

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Thank you, comrade.

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Captured Poltava against a token defense. No casualties(for us :P). Preparing for the offense against Kiev...

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Your former Commander, Shemir Naldayev has been sent to the read for training our new recruits. He has been placed at a tank school at Chelyabinsk just in time for the new troops first exams.

I am now your commander and I expect you to fight like banshees when in combat with the fascists. We here at the 1st Ukrainian are on the verge of a majour assault on very key enemy 'fortress' cities. Once we form up, we must strike deep into the enemy lines we will take Vienna and Prague. Lovely prises for the terror our brave nation has faced. We shall show the enemy no quarter in the months to come, and I need to you to fight with tenacity that you've heretofor never known you had. I wish you luck, and for the Glory of the Motherland, We Shall Advance!


This month the 1st Ukrainian took the city of Kirovgrad. There we destroyed 2 Romanian divisions and 2 divisions of Wermacht. We occupied the airbase at (39,117) and will be sending planes there to support the 2nd Ukr, come springtime. We also intend to hand Kirovgrad over to the 2nd when they are ready to take command.

Preparations are underway to move on Bruno by way of Kracow. From there it is a equal distance to both Vienna and Prague. Kosice will be bypassed for now, as it is a fortress located in very mountainous terrain (city on mtn, the Horse would be pissed). It poses no threat to the intended assault.

This month, upon taking command, I was informed by the Marshal to prepare for a supposed counterattack in the Kursk sector come this summer. Apparently Sorge has been at it again, btu I find it hard to believe. Kusrsk is hundreds of km away from the front, how do they figure they tanks will get there? Either way, Our is not to wonder why...

I have no immediate requests for rushbuilding, Check the Kursh area for AT guns, they're cheap if you Marshal types are lookign for something fun to build.

It will be some time before my forces are poised to strike. They are spread all across the Ukraine on their way to the assebly points...

-VK.

Here is a shot of the capture of Kirovgrad AFB by Cossaks of the 1st Ukr. Note divisional emblem displayed...

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