04-05-2003 13:41									#121
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those fruitless attacks were intended to demolish my army, and attempt to aggrevate him so he would finish me off. He attacked me a few minutes before I could delete my account, it really ticked me off.


edit:
how can you tell who attacked me?

	04-05-2003 16:11									#122
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that git #120 took some land from me aswell then died so i cant get it back

	04-05-2003 16:13									#123
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You can see who is attacking who by doing various types of 'news searches'.

If you go click on 'news search' then leave the radio button on 'doesnt matter' then click 'search news' it will give a list of the last 100 attacks by all empires and the results.

Alternatively you can specify an empire number to see who they are attacking or put in your own to see who has attacked you.

I use this feature all the time, is useful to see which type of attacks some empires are vunerable to, whose recently attacked a lot of people so may be week themselved etc etc.

	04-05-2003 16:16									#124
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Laz, I see you took a bit of a hammering over night. do you want to mount a combined offensive against 'The People' #8 or do you want to go after him on your own.

I am quite strong so if you want me to weaken him in any way I will.

	04-05-2003 16:20									#125
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Actually I was thinking about asking if you wanted a combined assault against one of the top 2 players He failed 3 or 4 times against my ships, guessing low health but thats probably what he specialises in so i'm going to test him out. Otherwise yes in a few mins i'll tear apart #8 with you.

	04-05-2003 16:20									#126
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by the way, I have my new empire under construction. Once I go public I will rejoin the clan.

	04-05-2003 16:22									#127
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#8 has a really weak air defense, eat him

	04-05-2003 16:29									#128
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Laz

Ive been giving a lot of thought as to how to take out the top players.

I am vary wary of attacking them yet as I dont think I am strong enough. I have seen how they have just obliterated people before. I dont think either, or both of us could survive a sustained assault from them at the moment (even the third player is with them).

To suceed we need to:

- Get a bit (a lot) stronger.
- Build a coalition of about 6 strong empires (including BadGoatville if hes willing) - im thinking some of Ranger and PWN clan when they get stronger, maybe some others.

Maybe by tomorrow we could have 6+ empires make sustained attacks on the strongest of UNHr with alternate attacks to weaken the others. It would have to be coordinated and go on all day. Before we start we should have 500 turns each, and have primed our empires for this offence, we should also be ready for counter attacks during the day and the following days.

I dont advise we attack until we are completely ready.

	04-05-2003 16:30									#129
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After a failing struggle, your army is repelled by Connection Error (0x6AH at 11a)'s defenses. In the attempt, you lost:
12,390 Jets
In their defense, Connection Error (0x6AH at 11a) lost:
106,286 Hovercrafts

lol

	04-05-2003 16:34									#130
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Laz,

Try and make peace with them (or look week for a while), I woudnt attack again if I were you.

Im concentrating on making small consolidations against weeker players, you might want to do the same. I am biding my time - I think my idea in my last post could work very well if we are prepared.

If they turn on you know I dont even think my help will make a big difference.

	04-05-2003 16:41									#131
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Yeah i know I sent him a msg asking him to stop, my forces deserted for attacking a stronger opponent.. urgh traitors !!

Just saved up 300mill aswell as getting all my land back and doubling the size of my airforce, if they continue to attack I will make life a ***** for them, since it will be impossible to defend every angle

And now an airforce of around 2mill, going to knock it upto 3mill and kamikaze if he rapes me again

Last edited by Lazerus on 04-05-2003 at 16:50

	04-05-2003 16:52									#132
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I am trying to get BadGoatville #14 and and Mistrali Tersicorae #50 on board with my idea.

I will subtally try and get then to support us, I will perhaps canvas some other players and members of Rangers.

If your up for it, and we can get a strong enough force, lets tentatively say we will launch the mass offensive at 6pm GMT tomorrow (Monday)

Start preparing




RANGER CLAN MEMBERS - see my last few posts above (re a full scale assult on the top players)

Let me know if your up for it, if so start preparing.

	04-05-2003 16:58									#133
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I dont know if I'll be able to directly support the attack, unless you plane on wearing them down to a nub for me to finish off

	04-05-2003 17:06									#134
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I think I'll be out at the pics with my gf at that time :P

But yes If any of that top clan takes 20k acres offa me again, i'll hurt em as much as possible while your around and then you can hopefully break through .... 10k acres per attack now that would be fun to see

	04-05-2003 17:14									#135
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Just cast Hight Orbit Blanket on Wilde Horde (see below), you can see how strong even he is (800 turns, $7,348mil).

The top players will have combined defences but have week points we can attack with Hydro or other attacks, because of their number of turns and money to buy replacement units we need to plan any attack well.

I think if we have 3-4 fairly strong players + 3 or more others we could pull it off. We would need to save up turns and $ before we start though. We would then have to continue you the attack ever hours for at least a day, maybe longer. the results would be great, we would then dominate the game with no opposition.


Wilde Horde (#9)
Turns 500 (max 500)
Turns Stored 300 (max 300)
Rank #3
Drones 1,350,888
Land Acres 34,637
Money $7,348,964,327
Batteries 7,460,354
Bandwidth 15,186,920
Networth $45,137,236
Era Future
Race Dark Elf
Health 54%
Tax Rate 10%
Cyborgs 894,675
Juggernauts 1,172,734
Hovercrafts 6,316,959
Dreadnoughts 1,507,667
Master AIs 307,610

Economic Status
Income: $8,726,678
Expenses: $6,937,170
War Tax: $0
Loan Pay: $0
Net: +$1,789,508
Agricultural Status
Produced: 270,025
Consumed: 249,623
Net: +20,402
Population & Military Status
Drones: +9,107
Master AIs: 0
Bandwidth: +4,415
Cyborgs: 0
Juggernauts: 0
Hovercrafts: 0
Dreadnoughts: +80

	04-05-2003 17:18									#136
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No wonder my Jets failed against him, ouch ... on the bright side my tanks will break through if I try with them

Hes also very weak against a guerilla assault.

	04-05-2003 17:22									#137
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Bide your time, lets get a coalition of players together first. The aim to attck tomorrow at 6pm GMT when we are all ready.

	04-05-2003 17:38									#138
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We should all play this when the game resets and starts again, could probably win it since there aren't that many active players. Right now i doubt its acheivable since i hate to think how long those guys at the top have just been stockpiling.

	04-05-2003 17:39									#139
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my guess is months

	04-05-2003 18:02									#140
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nah a few weeks, i've been completely bashed to half my size 3 times now and im still top 10 and have only been playing 3 days.

	04-05-2003 18:09									#141
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i started a empire and joined the ranger clan

	04-05-2003 18:30									#142
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Well done flash, i see your winning a few battles already. If youve not played before read a few tips in this thread. Dont forget to enable shared defence

Laz/Space - Those guys may have been stockpiling a for only a few days, I guess no one really attacks them for fear of being obliterated. A Coalition could do it im sure.

We have no choice really, its either languish around in the top ten and wait for them to pick us off one by one or organsie an assault. I say go for the assult when we are ready.

	04-05-2003 18:36									#143
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hey!!! are we at war with UNHr??!?!? please say yes!!!

	04-05-2003 18:39									#144
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No we are not at war with UNHr yet!

Read the my last 8 or so posts, we thinking of preparing to go to war with them. We need to build a coalition and get a little stronger first. I am aiming to get us ready for 6pm GMT tomorrow, if all is in place thats when it should start and continue relentlasly

	04-05-2003 18:40									#145
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ahhh, Stalingrad (#130) is ripe for plundering!

oh well.

	04-05-2003 18:49									#146
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Hey Space05us, thanks for sending me all your stuff before you got destroyed. It will be very helpful.

And Barley, I can't be around at 6pm GMT tomorrow, but I will be around later that day so I could do some sort of follow up strike.

	04-05-2003 18:58									#147
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It may start at 6pm GMT, its important the attacks continue ever hour, those that start the attack (me included) will obviously get retaliated against, we need all of the coalition to keep attacking whenever they are online. Follow up attacks say 8 hours later are just as important to continually weaken them, also the game only allow so many attacks againt an empire each hour (I guess around 20), each of us can make a say 20 attacks against each on each hour, it is important that other members of the coalition continue this.

Get your empire ready, stockpile some turns and $, even the smaller empires can make a big dent in them as by the time the initial attacks are over they will be weakened a lot. You need to attack with masses of singe units e.g. Hydro assault.

I will post details of their stengths / weaknesses before we begin the attacks so we can coordinate and target it.

If you are joining the attack, make sure you have a Time gate open if you need one.

	04-05-2003 19:13									#148
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I cant get a timegate open, and I just killed off half my wizards trying

who are we going to concentrate on?

	04-05-2003 19:14									#149
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the hive is getting killed by Nationalist Human Union

	04-05-2003 19:18									#150
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I just advanced to the Present and beat up on United Warrior Federation (#88).

They are fairly weak now and if anyone is looking to take some land, you may want to try them.