05-05-2003 17:24									#31
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet I've never eaten a bagel and wouldn't even be 100% sure what the hell a bagel was.

It's like a doughnut only hard and bland. I'm surprised it's not big in the UK.

	05-05-2003 17:26									#32
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I thought it was a bread roll.

	05-05-2003 18:35									#33
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A garlic bagel filled with cream cheese, pepper, sliced tomato, spinach, cilantro, and cucumber.

	05-05-2003 18:45									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Osweld It's like a doughnut only hard and bland. I'm surprised it's not big in the UK.

It sounds disgusting so, yeah, I'm surprised it's not wildly popular in the UK. We are the culinary trash-heap of the world after all.

	05-05-2003 18:57									#35
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I used to like salt, but now I don't so much. I really like a toasted everything. Something about how the seeds get a little burnt that is yummy. Plus I like it if there is a just a little salt on the everything. Cinamon raisin is alos quite good. When it is hot and toasted, the melting cream cheese kinda combines with the hot raisins to give a honey taste.

Morning: sweeter taste, go for Cin raisin

Afternoon: more meal taste, go for everything

butter is also quite good on a hot cin raisin.

	05-05-2003 19:02									#36
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Plain, toasted, generous portions of melted butter, and sometimes with strawberry jelly.

Mmmm...

Great thread.

	05-05-2003 20:33									#37
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Fez is making fun of the British??? Yes - he definitely is better than before!
Good Bagels are not hard and bland. The best are slightly chewy, warm, flavorful, satisfying... Oh man...

	05-05-2003 21:06									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed damn. truth be told, there really is no bad bagel.

Except onion.

	05-05-2003 21:09									#39
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet It sounds disgusting so, yeah, I'm surprised it's not wildly popular in the UK. We are the culinary trash-heap of the world after all.

It's unrised (?) dough made into the shape of a donut. Very good stuff.

	05-05-2003 21:14									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger unrised (?)

unraised

	05-05-2003 21:25									#41
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Thanks.

	05-05-2003 21:37									#42
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AH -

Pumpernickel is a very dark, coarse bread that originated among the German peasants. The name is a combination of the words Fumfer (collaquial for "to fart") and Nixien (a gremlin or pixie). Since the bread was so coarse, it would often induce gas, hence one was possessed by a "fumfernixien," or a "fart gremlin."

	06-05-2003 00:31									#43
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You guys all have it wrong, unless the guy who said "salmon" means "lox."

The greatest - and I mean *greatest* - bagel must be a bagel with cream cheese and lox. Sometimes you want a slice of tomato; sometimes you don't. Lox spread may, if necessary, be used as a substitute for lox but the real thing is the best.

Soooooo good.

What sucks is I just went to Dunkin' Donuts here and I can't believe it: no lox spread! They have *strawberry* creamcheese (wtf is that?) but no lox. In fact, the person taking my order didn't know what lox was.

What is this world coming to?

	06-05-2003 00:51									#44
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Bagels are inherently Jewish, so I'd have thought that any place with a a decent-sized Jewish population would have bagels.

	06-05-2003 00:58									#45
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quote: Pumpernickel is a very dark, coarse bread that originated among the German peasants.

Dark, coarse, and yummy!

Though an Everything bagel is pretty good as well.

	06-05-2003 06:20									#46
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Bagels are inherently Jewish? Well, they're inherently central and east European, thus lots of Ashkenazi Jews eat them. Sephardi Jews, however, are from the Mediterranean areas (originally Spain) and, until at least the last 75 years, were the majority of Jews in the Low Countries and Britain. I don't know about now, though.

	06-05-2003 06:42									#47
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Isn't a bagel boiled bread?

Then how about some nice Haggus spread to go with it?

ACK!

	06-05-2003 07:07									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Lazer Bagels are inherently Jewish? Well, they're inherently central and east European, thus lots of Ashkenazi Jews eat them. Sephardi Jews, however, are from the Mediterranean areas (originally Spain) and, until at least the last 75 years, were the majority of Jews in the Low Countries and Britain. I don't know about now, though.

Yes, bagels are Jewish, but you're probably right about why they aren't popular in the UK - obviously not all "sects" (is that the correct term?) share the same culinary traditions.

	06-05-2003 07:10									#49
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Here's an interesting bit on the history of the bagel:

http://www.kitchenproject.com/history/bagels/bagels.htm

	07-05-2003 03:48									#50
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Kontiki,

Sects is not the right word. This is kind of through ethnicity - tho the DNA is basically the same - as in Central-Europe descended or Spain-descended. Better term might be tradition, though I'm a little uncomfortable w/ that as well. Hmmmm.....

	07-05-2003 03:50									#51
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It may be a Jewish food, but in the US EVERYONE eats bagels.

	07-05-2003 03:53									#52
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker It may be a Jewish food, but in the US EVERYONE eats bagels.

That's not true, I don't. I think I've had 2 in my entire life.

ACK!

	07-05-2003 04:04									#53
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I like wheat.
Most of you now couldn't pass a urinalysis to save your life.

	07-05-2003 04:47									#54
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****. I have to do a drug test on Friday and I had an everything bagel today. Am I in trouble?

	07-05-2003 05:37									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Isn't a bagel boiled bread? Then how about some nice Haggus spread to go with it? ACK!

Yes, the dough is supposed to be boiled, before it is baked yet again. A good bagel has a nice crust, and a soft, hut not too soft interior. when toasted, the outside gets hard but the inside remians chewy, yet warm...

MOtreal Bagels? You are nuts, sir, nuts.

	07-05-2003 05:45									#56
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Poppy seeds for sure will cause a false positive, GP.

	07-05-2003 06:06									#57
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Poppy seeds for sure will cause a false positive, GP.

How much. How long. Should I tell them that?

	07-05-2003 06:12									#58
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He's joking I'm sure. It comes from a Seinfeld episode where Elaine ate sooo many poppy seeds and then tested positive for opium.

	07-05-2003 06:16									#59
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No, I'm not joking this time.
I'm serious as Hell.

As to what you should do, I don't know all about your situation.

	07-05-2003 06:16									#60
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Yes - An onion bagel with salmon cream cheese spread unites the various elements that are Apolyton. (though I prefer real smoked salmon & Winnipeg style cream cheese.)

Fez, Boris & I all vote for the same nosh !