27-05-2003 01:57									#151
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	27-05-2003 04:46									#152
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	27-05-2003 05:15									#153
	Put an end to popups!

and that whole lot of 010101 is not just you hitting random digits at all

	27-05-2003 05:35									#154
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@Zero :

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-Jam

	02-06-2003 06:15									#155
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Time for some fun general Hive knowledge questions.

Question:
"A favourite Hive slogan"

Coded Answer: FC8D292311ED242DC18C882057AF764DB35D65

	02-06-2003 07:58									#156
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Answer: Kill?

Stop this Hive nonsense

	02-06-2003 08:02									#157
	Full PM-box? Change here!

It devalues your news service reports and comments.

	02-06-2003 10:03									#158
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If You Don't Stop Talking In Machine, I'll Go Online And Start Translating! I Really Will! And If I Find You Are Just Typing In Random Ones And Zeros, I'm Going Over To Your Base And Strangling Each And Every One Of You!

*laughs and insane laugh that is slightly unsettling*

	02-06-2003 10:08									#159
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It is not machine talk. It is Hive coding used by their intelligence agents. Anyway, I'm challenging the CyCon to break it.

	02-06-2003 10:16									#160
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Plus I learnt some C programming and practiced good programming style while writing the text encoder and decoder.

	02-06-2003 21:50									#161
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So you wrote yours as a standalone application?

I just did javascript for the CC's one and put it up as a webpage for the other members... a security risk if someone were to actually find it

If any of you are curious about the CC code I can probably tell you what I did, as code security seems pretty moot at this point.

	02-06-2003 23:49									#162
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quote: If any of you are curious about the CC code I can probably tell you what I did, as code security seems pretty moot at this point.

Uh, I'd rather have you won't tell, Cedayon.

	03-06-2003 00:39									#163
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Id rather you didn't too Cedayon. It is not a mute point, in that we still have our old messages up, and may still want to use it.

	03-06-2003 03:40									#164
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Well I used multi layer encoding, and I set it out so that I can keep on adding more layers to it. There are 5 layers used, 1 is trivial, 1 you know already and that leaves 3.

How many different types of encoding did you used? Anyway you might help save the sanity of my friend by giving hints, although it was a good thing he moved on after spending a lot of time on your code. During the time he had written a parameterised text alignment, basic frequency analyser, basic shifting XOR comparator. One claim he has made is that he can tell which output uses your encoding, but cannot tell what the message is.

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	03-06-2003 03:52									#165
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quote: 1 you know already

Really? What was it again? My memory seems to be failing.

	03-06-2003 03:53									#166
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It was used in the previous code, which we presumed you already broken .

	03-06-2003 04:03									#167
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You overestimate the amount of free time we have. AFAIK nobody of the Consciousness has spent any time on decyphering your codes. It seemed like too much effort for what probably are trivial messages anyway. As you probably know, our messages contained no crucial information about our plans either. Well except perhaps for which faction we'd like to assimilate first.

	03-06-2003 04:15									#168
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Well, the first code is really simple. Anyway I like cracking codes, if I have the time and tools (which my friend had to make them).

	03-06-2003 08:02									#169
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Because of my fellow functions' objections, I won't reveal my methods... but tell your friend I didn't use any XORing (I would have, if I had known at the time how simple that would be, but I didn't) and that, if I'm counting correctly, there are only 3 layers of encoding.

I could make it arbitrarily more complex... and I suppose I could always toss in an XOR layer, but that would just be cruel

	03-06-2003 15:16									#170
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Sometimes it's cruel to be cruel kind

	03-06-2003 16:20									#171
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(Thinking ahead a bit here) Would anyone in the CyCon want to write occaisional articles for PRAVDA in the future? (after we meet in game) Something on the lines of :
The day we met the Hive!
What the CyCon can offer YOU!
Public safety announcement : Implants are SAFE!
Holiday in the Hive - A CyCon's point of view.

You know the kind of thing I mean.

Who's up for that?

-Jam

	03-06-2003 16:41									#172
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Sure. The same goes for Hive propaganda articles for 3D, the second issue of which will be released shortly.

	03-06-2003 22:09									#173
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*lol*

"Need cheap and easily controllable slave labor hardworking selfless workers to build your Marxist paradise? CyCon Delta 'borgs are just the thing for you!"

	04-06-2003 06:04									#174
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All that and they defragment your hard drives too!

	04-06-2003 13:06									#175
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Now if a CyCon drone could rescue data from a dead hard drive, then I would be hiring a few.....

-Jam