11-05-2003 04:58									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Alvaro panag: i related to that in a later post. ("there are no new Uzi's"). both stil carry the licences though. The M.A.G. is in the same status, ofcourse. As for prices: The IDF gets M16's (long ones after quite some use) at shippment cost every now and then (4 shippments of roughly 35,000 weapons). Same with Kuwait and Saudi Arabia (and Egypt too, I think), however with far smaller quantities. M4's are purchased at 20$-100$ a piece when they are purchased in batches by the IDF.

hi ,

source , ...

cause huh , thats not what the taxpayers are paying for it , ....

Israel has never ever bought a gun at 20-100 usd , ...

have a nice day

	11-05-2003 05:20									#32
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The taxpayers never paid for american assault rifles. I doubt they ever will.

They are paid for with the american financial aid package. It's all symbolic purchasing.

I received my M4A1 from a batch intended for the PALSAR's of the infantry divisions (I serve in field intelligence) a year ago. There were 500 brand new M4A1's with the trijicon day optic and all the fancy stuff in a lovely box.

I asked the colonel (sgan-aluf) who was in charge of distribution how much they had cost us. He said that a brand new kit is a 100$ but that it is rare that we buy them like this.

As a bankrupt army/nation we choose to buy the M4A1 upper receivers (20$) and just put them on our old AR15's. That is often the case with the infantry battalions.

Proper price for the full M4A1 kit is quite massive considering the fact that the Trijicon day optic alone is worth $3,500 in normal stores. It's around the $1,000. We are special though. You'd be amazed at what we get for peanuts, best source is not our budget but the US Army's reports to the Congress on any dealings involving weapons and munitions.

	11-05-2003 05:32									#33
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In Somalia, the going rate for AK's was about $20 US. It depends on supply and demand for both the gun and the currency, of course.

I'm wondering what the price would be before people start importing guns into Iraq. Apparently, they make homemade AKs in Afghanistan, so the policy wouldn't work every place, I guess.

The report also suggested the availability of other weapons. A grenade for 25 cents. More firepower for a price. I don't know whether the US is also removing these weapons from the market.

	11-05-2003 06:11									#34
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Isn't the AK-47 supposed to be more reliable then the M-16,I.E. a better field weapon?(or used to be)
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I could do a Vigneron (old french machine gun) blindfolded in less then 30 sec.
I've used a FAL and FALO too
Soon after that we switch over to the Minimi and the FNC