15-05-2003 03:06									#61
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Ha! Now I know how to explain that!

0100 binary means 0*8 + 1*4 + 0*2 + 0*1 = 4
so
1111 binary means 1*8 + 1*4 + 1*2 + 1*1 = 15
there you have the "15". Two digits. thatīs not efficient, cause computers use 4 binary digits as ONE unit, so the expression should also be ONE digit.
Thatīs where HEX comes in place! Hex numbers start like normal ones, but "10" normal is "A" Hex, up to "15" normal is "F" HEX.
Then a second Hex digit is added for "16" normal (="10" Hex). Adding 15 to that will give you "31" normal and "1F" Hex. "32" normal is "20" Hex and so on. Up to "255" normal being "FF" Hex!
1111 1111 binary is 1*128 + 1*64 + ... + 1*1 =255
F F Hex
0001 1111 binary
1 F Hex
0101 1010 binary
5 A Hex ("10" normal = "A" Hex)

This way you can say e.g.
AA F3 D0 01 F1 instead of
1010 1010 1111 0011 1101 0000 0000 0001 1111 0001

See?

	15-05-2003 03:11									#62
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2^8 is 256 actually
to get 1024 you need 2^10
256 is the normal ASCII range
wide characters are bigger each is two bytes so there are 2^16 = 65536 combinations. Enough to cover strange characters from other languages and funny symbols.

To convert bin to hex you grab every 4 bin bits as mentioned above. E.g.

10110110 = 1011, 0110 = 11, 6 = B,6

If you ask me about octals, you grab every 3 bits and turn them into octs. I have more practise with hex than octs or bins.

	15-05-2003 03:57									#63
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I think I understand what you're saying, but I fail to see how hex is better or shorter. It's just a different code/system.

With the binary code I've used until now, every byte of eight ones and zeroes stands for an alphanumberic symbol.

With hex you still need a byte of eight ones and zeroes to code one alphanumberic symbol. You just have the ability to represent that byte of eight symbols into a hex of two symbols. But what use does that have for computers, as they can only understand/read/however-I-have-to-say-it ones and zeroes, ons and offs?

For example:

0011001 (in "my" binary) = 1 (in alphanumberic)
0000001 (in hexic/hexagonal? binary) = 01 (in hex) = 1 (in alphanumberic) *

* I at least presume "01" stands for "1", as I don't have a hex=>alphanumberic transformer.

If I understand things correctly at least, they are just two different, but equally-useful codes.

	15-05-2003 03:58									#64
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quote: Originally posted by History Guy Those Cyborgs get touchy when magnets are around...

00100011011110110100000100000011011100110111100100
00100100000011010000110010101100000011100110010000
00110010001101001011100110110001101101111011101100
11001010111001001100101011001000010000001101111011
10101011100100010000001101111011011100110110001111
00100100000011101110110010101100001011010110110111
00110010101110011011100110010000100100000001110100
11100110110001101100001011100100110010101100100001
11010011010010010000001110011011101010111000001110
00001101111011100110110010100100000011010000110010
10010000001110111011011110111010101101100011001000
11011100110000001110100001000000110001001100101001
00000011100110110111100100000011000100110100101110
10001110100011001010111001000100000011010010110011
00010000001101001001000000110100001100001011001000
11011100110000001110100001000000110110001100101011
00110011101000010000001101000011010010110110100100
00001100100011001010111001101110100011010010111010
00111010101110100011001010010000001100001011001100
11101000110010101110010001000000110100001100101001
00000011100110111010001101111011011000110010100100
00001110100011010000110010100100000011100100110010
10110001101101001011100000110010100100000011001100
11011110111001000100000011110000110010101101110011
01111011000100111001001100101011101110010000001100
11001101111011100100010000001101101011001010010000
00110100101101110001000000111010001101000011000010
11101000010000001110000011000010111001101110100001
00000011011000110100101100110011001010010111000101
11000101110

	15-05-2003 03:59									#65
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quote: 10110110 = 1011, 0110 = 11, 6 = B,6

Yes, but what does "B6" stand for in alphanumberic? You can't talk in English with only the symbols 0123456789ABCDEF.

	15-05-2003 04:06									#66
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001100100010001101111011011100110000001110
10000100000011101110110111101110010011100100111100
10010000001010100010010110100011100101110001000000
10101110110010100100000011000110110000101101110001
00000011100110111010001101001011011000110110000100
00001100111011010010111011001100101001000000110010
10110110001100101011000110111010001110010011010010
11000110110000101101100001000000111000001110101011
01100011100110110010100100000011101000110111100100
00001100011011001010111001001110100011000010110100
10110111000100000011100000110000101110010011101000
11100110010000001101111011001100010000001101000011
01001011100110010000001100010011100100110000101101
00101101110001000000110100101100110001000000110100
00110010101100000011100110010000001110100011011110
11011110010000001101101011101010110001101101000001
00000011101000111001001101111011101010110001001101
10001100101001011100010000001010100011010000110010
10110111000100000011010000110100101110011001000000
11011010111010101110011011000110110110001100101011
10011001000000111011101101001011011000110110000100
00001100010011001010110001101101111011011010110010
10010000001110011011100000110000101110011011101000
11010010110001100111011001000000110100001100101001
00000011101110110111101110101011011000110010000100
00001101110011011110010000001101100011011110110111
00110011101100101011100100010000001100010011001010
01000000110000101100010011011000110010100100000011
10100011011110010000001100011011011110110111001110
10001110010011011110110110000100000011101000110100
00110010101101101001011000010000001101010011101010
11100110111010000100000011000010111001100100000011
10111011001010010000001110111011011110111010101101
10001100100011011100110000001110100001000000110001
00110010100100000011000010110001001101100011001010
01000000111010001101111001000000110001101101111011
01110011101000111001001101111011011000010000001101
11101110101011100100010000001101001011011010111000
00110110001100001011011100111010001110011001000000
11101110110100001100101011011100010000001100001001
00000011100110111010001110010011011110110111001100
11100100000011011010110000101100111011011100110010
10111010000100000011010010111001100100000011000010
11100100110111101110101011011100110010000101110

Only two sentences or so, and such a long code.

	15-05-2003 04:11									#67
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10110011010000110110101110000011010000010111000100
00001101111011100100010110000100000011001100110000
10110100101101100011010010110111001100111001000000
11101000110100001100001011101000010110000100000011
01001011011010111000001100001011000110111010000100
00001110010011010010110011001101100011001010111001
10010000001110111011011110111001001101011001000000
11101110110010101101100011011000010111000100000010
00100010001010100000101010100010010000010000001010
10001001111001000000101010001001000010001010010000
00101010101001110010010010101011001000101010100100
10100110100100101010100010110010010000100100000010
01101010101110100000101001000010000010100100001000
00101001000010000010010000100100000001110100110010
101110110011010010110110000111010

	15-05-2003 04:16									#68
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It is just another form of encoding. E.g. If you wish, you can convert alphabet into decimal system. So a base 26 into a base 10. To do this you would need to convert a text into a numeric value. I will use a short word as the value grows quickly with each character.

"SMAX" = 19x26^3 + 14x26^2 + 1x26^1 + 24x26^0
=333944 + 9464 + 26 + 24
= 343458 in decimal
= 53DA2 in hex
= 1010011110110100010 in bin

	15-05-2003 04:21									#69
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Ummm - it seems the boys have answered for me Drogue

Have "fun" working it out, you have all the clues you need now. (BTW you can get programms from the internet that work it all out for you, but you probably already knew that I'm not smart enough to do it on my own...)

-Jam

	15-05-2003 04:26									#70
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quote: 1001000000111011101101111011100100110101100 1000000 11101110110010101101100011011000010111000100000010 00100010001010100000101010100010010000010000001010 10001001111001000000101010001001000010001010010000 00101010101001110010010010101011001000101010100100 10100110100100101010100010110010010000100100000010 01101010101110100000101001000010000010100100001000 00101001000010000010010000100100000001110100110010 101110110011010010110110000111010

We pirates ( signals experts), can understand exactly what you're saying and the answer is 1111 10000.! (bin) And that's final

	15-05-2003 04:28									#71
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Amazing how much binary communication can be found in Pravda discussions.

	15-05-2003 04:31									#72
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PRAVDA really caters for all tastes, whether cyborg or full human - that's why 11 out of ten readers prefer PRAVDA (According to official PAC polling)

-Jam

	15-05-2003 04:31									#73
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Hercules, that message means nothing right? I can't translate it and I haven't seen a message starting with 1001000000 in this thread. Also your answer has nine bits.

	15-05-2003 04:34									#74
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Poor Maniac

-Jam

	15-05-2003 04:34									#75
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That's Cybergs for ye. Bins and hex but no Sex

	15-05-2003 04:37									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Hercules That's Cybergs for ye. Bins and hex but no Sex

Is that base 6?

	15-05-2003 04:37									#77
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Sex !

I remember that !

* Jamski starts work on the next PRAVDA Special Edition....

-Jam

	15-05-2003 04:38									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Vev Is that base 6?

I belive they call it 4th base

-Jam

	15-05-2003 04:40									#79
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quote: 11 out of ten readers prefer PRAVDA

So that's 3 out of ten or did you mean 11 out of 10 in bin. But its funny no matter

	15-05-2003 04:42									#80
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I aim to amuse

You know there are 10 sorts of people : Those who understand Binary, and those who don't.



-Jam

	15-05-2003 04:47									#81
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quote: Is that base 6?

When it's right it can be basic 7

	15-05-2003 04:47									#82
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Is this going to develop into some sort of 133t binary talk? Although it will be a heck lot less annoying.

00010111 00001111 00001111 00010100!

	15-05-2003 04:50									#83
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As the Editor of PRAVDA, it would be a shame to have to kill horribly ask people not to degenerate from binary into the abomination of 133t talk. Even Miriam's crazed followers know better than that...

-Jam

	15-05-2003 04:52									#84
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Tell me how do the Hive Army march on May 1, past the great Hive leader?

Is it
111111111111111111111111111111111
111111111111111111111111111111111
111111111111111111111111111111111
111111111111111111111111111111111

or
1010101010101010101010101010101101
1010101010101010101010101010101101
1010101010101010101010101010101101
1010101010101010101010101010101101

or other traditional marching order?

	15-05-2003 04:55									#85
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Ah 133t. We pirates love 133t and L3wting

	15-05-2003 04:55									#86
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I'm afraid at the moment the Hive Army just goes :

101

There's not an awful lot of them right now

-Jam

	15-05-2003 04:56									#87
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* Jamski shoots Hercules gently

It was a mercy killing really, he was about to become 14 years old again...

-Jam

	15-05-2003 05:06									#88
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I thought pirates were interested in grog and wenches.

	15-05-2003 06:01									#89
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..and l3wt, er I mean b00ty (there's many kinds of that...) And as I am a 'wench', I'd rather have me one of those lean sailor lads I like tekillya mixed into a margarita for my grog, thank ye ^_^

	15-05-2003 06:20									#90
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Here ya go, for the lads and the ladies.

Last edited by Vev on 15-05-2003 at 06:26