17-05-2003 03:46									#61
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Outstanding our esteemed Marshall has joined the debate!

	17-05-2003 03:51									#62
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Conmcb: I agree with your change to #2. If the corrections are accepted, I'll agree. Unfortunately I accidentally voted no in this poll But I don't think it would have made a difference, looking at the numbers

I think I may be the first to fall victim to Section 2 of my proposal

	17-05-2003 03:58									#63
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quote: Originally posted by The ANZAC I think I may be the first to fall victim to Section 2 of my proposal

Yes especially since you already voted no, can you spell Gulag?

	17-05-2003 04:02									#64
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H?

I agree to bring these amendments to the floor somehow whether they should be added or voted on separately or whatever you think is best.

There is the one issue that you did not agree on the who should remove the Marshall question.

Your comment

quote: I still maintain that it should be only the Politburo who can remove the marshal, a popular referendum I can deal with too.

I guess you are against STAVKA removal of the Marshall but your front commanders aren't buying it, well at least one isn't.

Your decision on this one you know my very existance is too only serve your every need......

	17-05-2003 04:18									#65
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I was responding directly to Anzac's first post about his proposal's but have not had time to think much about the changes made to the stavka part of it. A unanimous decision by stavka is acceptable I guess. But I'm still not happy about it.

These amendments need to be voted on seperately since people have not been voting based upon these.

	17-05-2003 11:46									#66
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I believe the Politburo should be the only one that can remove the Marshal. I can't imagine the Front Commanders deciding on whether or not to keep the current Marshal. Plus, I think the Politburo needs some powers that are unique to them.

Oh, and Xenozod for Chief of NKVD...and more campaign...stuff.

	17-05-2003 14:55									#67
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I'm away for the night, and suddenly everything goes up in flames! Shame on you!

No, seriously, I think STAVKA shouldn't be able to vote against a Marshal, for he is their boss. They should however be able to make a sort of vote of no-confidence, and send this to the Politburo, who then decides wether or not to fire the Marshal! The Politburo will take notice of this vote, and probably rely upon it but there is no obligation to fire the Marshal after this vote (this makes that the vote should be anonimous, for the Marshal CAN fire Front Commanders)

I think that the Politburo will be here to discuss general matters, and have fun on this forum, and will less interfere with the real game. The front commanders and the Marshal are the ones playing, and we are discussing general matters, and playing our roles (which is a lot of fun IMO). I for me have no ambition to play the actual turns, but I want to have some input in the game! It's just an extra level, without interfering to much with the front commanders (WE don't fight the war, YOU are ) Plus, this could be an incentive for the front commanders to keep good relations with the Politburo, and inform them on all matters concerning political actions!

Comrade Michaelovitch for Politburo!

For a pure and better communism!

	17-05-2003 16:21									#68
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A unanamous STAVKA vote could simulate militay coup I guess. I'm not really bothered either way.

	17-05-2003 17:01									#69
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The Politburo represents the will of the workers, and should be the only one capable of firing the Marshall. It is the workers, and not the Red Army, who are eventually in charge, and it is best the front commanders realize that they serve at the will of the proleteriot).

(Yes, I also realize I that in the worker's paradise I should learn how to spell proletariot correctly

	17-05-2003 17:38									#70
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That is the true Communist spirit, Comrade PinkyGenovitch! More people should think this way!

	17-05-2003 17:41									#71
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Btw. Bossy, from where in Belgium are you? I'm from Linden. (Near Leuven)

	17-05-2003 18:11									#72
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Former Russian ambassador to Belgium, now living in Moscow!

I live in Brussels (trying to get a look at those NATO plans for times to come ) I didn't know you were Belgian. Nice to have a fellow countryman here!

	17-05-2003 18:17									#73
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Oh, and this is out of character, I want to make clear that Bossy20000 has nothing to do with my personality or anything, it's just a nickname (an abbreviation of my lastname) plus a typo (I was creating an e-mailadres in 2000 and mistyped)!

Just to make this clear to everybody before you start thinking that the role I play here could be my real personality

	17-05-2003 18:38									#74
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Spreek jij nederlands? Ou, tu parles français?

	17-05-2003 20:52									#75
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Beide, maar Nederlands is mijn moedertaal. Dit zorgt ervoor dat wij ongehinderd kunnen comploteren
Wat doe je in het echte leven?

For the non-dutch speaking members, we are NOT preparing a coup d'état, just exchanging some information! This is NOT a secret code of some kind

	17-05-2003 21:06									#76
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Mijn moedertaal is ook nederlands.
Ik ben nog student. Maar ik zit in het laatste jaar en volgend jaar wil ik bio-ingenieur gaan studeren. En jij? Trouwens: misschien dat we dit beter via PM kunnen doen, je mag eigenlijk alleen engels praten op de forums, en je moet bij het onderwerp blijven.
Heb je MSN?

	17-05-2003 21:11									#77
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quote: Originally posted by Bossy20000 This is NOT a secret code of some kind

Riiiiiiiight...

	17-05-2003 22:53									#78
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marshall, there is more than one guy in a private meet, we should punish that

	17-05-2003 23:14									#79
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Sorry, my apologies, just trying to get some adresses etc. We are going over to MSN now. Please do not punish us (or else you WILL be on MY blacklist )

	18-05-2003 09:31									#80
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just don't make a habit of it

	18-05-2003 12:35									#81
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The fine thing about Dutch is that it's quite understandable to someone who knows Swedish and some German

	18-05-2003 13:35									#82
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Swedish in the contrary.