19-05-2003 03:08									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Hueij FN, the Belgian weapons manifacturer. The FAL was its greatest succes, even I ran around with one while I stopped the Russions from invading, somewhere in the 70's

Ah I see, I though he was talking about a party.

	19-05-2003 05:03									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel quote: Germany and the US also have a federal system, it only makes sense when you have a diversified country. In fact federal Belgium has been cited as an example if the Palestinians and the Jews were to form a single country. You seem to have some trouble, We'd probably have a civil war.

Well, that's one thing we're very good at, we have been on the brink on civil war more then once in the last couple of decades (things have calmed down a lot the last one though).
Many other countries with different communities (Switzerland, Canada to name but a few) have visited Belgium or kept an eye on it on a regurlar basis to see how we managed to solve it peacefully. I might even say we acted as an example on this issue

	19-05-2003 05:05									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Hueij quote: I thought it had something to do with the FN FAL. Maybe ,after 150 years, it's time for the Southern Netherlands to return to the Mother Country

It's the other way around goddammit , why do think all those dutch are immigrating to here

	19-05-2003 06:51									#64
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The combined social democrat and liberal parties managed to get 97 seats out of 150 in the house. I'm rather happy with this result, it looks like forming a coalition will run smoothly and the next govt will be a lot more stable than the previous one.

I'm not nearly as happy with the result of the VB though. (sorry August )

Check the results here.

	19-05-2003 07:03									#65
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You're sure you live in Antwerp Colon ?

	19-05-2003 13:24									#66
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Right... so you have a coalition between free-market liberals, and socialists? Strange...

	19-05-2003 15:22									#67
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quote: Originally posted by *End Is Forever* Right... so you have a coalition between free-market liberals, and socialists? Strange...

Not that strange anymore, the Dutch had 2 consecutive coalitions of social democrats that were very succesfull for instance. The social democrats and liberals tend to get along well on ethic and environmental issues and they're moderate enough to compromise on economic ones.

	19-05-2003 15:37									#68
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quote: Originally posted by alva You're sure you live in Antwerp Colon ?

Janssens got more votes than Dewinter.

	19-05-2003 15:54									#69
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So these "socialist" are socialist in the same way that Blair is a socialist, ie not at all?

	19-05-2003 16:36									#70
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Definitely more progressive than Blair is, just not as dogmatic as old style socialists.

	19-05-2003 18:10									#71
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I fail to see what "progressive" and "socialism" have to do with each other...

	19-05-2003 18:13									#72
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Well you certainly can't be progressive and conservative.

	19-05-2003 18:57									#73
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I'm not conservative.

	19-05-2003 18:58									#74
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I know, I keep telling you you are in the wrong party.

	19-05-2003 19:06									#75
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I'm a liberal Conservative.

	19-05-2003 20:00									#77
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quote: Originally posted by *End Is Forever* Right... so you have a coalition between free-market liberals, and socialists? Strange...

Please remember that Belgian liberals would still be considered leftish socialists in American eyes.

	19-05-2003 20:22									#78
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In American eyes just about the whole of Europe would be considered left-socialists. Hell, ditch the affirmative action crap and the Democrats would be comfortably right-of-centre in most European countries.

	19-05-2003 20:38									#79
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Let's keep this serious political discussion alive...

quote: Originally posted by *End Is Forever* In which case, I trust you'll be posting pictures...

	19-05-2003 22:26									#80
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quote: Originally posted by *End Is Forever* So these "socialist" are socialist in the same way that Blair is a socialist, ie not at all?

No, our socialists are true socialists...


Btw I voted agalev, the greens in other terms


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last time I did this test however, pva (communists) won, then agalev, spa, spirit, vivant, vld, cd&V, nva, and Vlaams Blok, with nothing whatsoever...

This time I agreed with things such as catholic education has some value (I had catholic education but I'm a total atheist), in any case the question is stupid, because the thing is you should get the choice of having religion in catholic schools or not... the test isn't very good though, but it does represent more or less how you are...

I'm very green and socialist but you already knew that, with a twitch of communism in me