23-05-2003 21:28									#31
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro UR, yes I tried Windowblinds long ago, but it didnīt run well. Maybe it was an older version?

When did you try Windowblinds? Of course, I have no idea what you want your desktop to look like, so I can't say for sure.

quote: Originally posted by BeBro I also asked for XP here to find out if there are real strong pros (compared to Win2k) except the graphics.

AFAIK, XP isn't even a full release in the NT/2K line. The next one is called "Longhorn," I believe, which is going to be even worse than XP.

	23-05-2003 22:25									#32
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quote: Still looks too much like a kid's toy.

So you think NT looked too much like a kid's toy?

	23-05-2003 23:13									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger When did you try Windowblinds? Of course, I have no idea what you want your desktop to look like, so I can't say for sure.

So long ago I canīt even remember exactly

But as said, I can of course live without such graphic stuff. If XP has no real major advantages, I donīt need it. But then I also wouldnīt install another desktop tool just for some cool gfx. I just thought XP gives me both - better gfx, and some real improvements. Since that doesnīt seem to be the case, my 2k will be enough for now...

	24-05-2003 00:11									#34
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Well, it playes more games, if that is important to you (it is to me ).

	24-05-2003 00:44									#35
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I am very pleased by XP professional since I have changed the goofy graphics and got rid of most of the 'user-friendly' features (more accurately called 'dumb-friendly' features)
The system is stable, and is rather convenient as it allows you to restore your old habits pretty easily.
I feel much better with XP pro, since it seems XP home don't allow you to do what you please with your comp, but XP pro seems to, at least in my experience.
However, be aware that you will send personal info about your computer to MS permanently with any WinXP, and it will be worse with any future system from MS. If you are jealous of your privacy, you should consider keeping your old system.

	24-05-2003 07:12									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 And its stable enough that you can leave it on for weeks and itll still do what you want it to do

If that isn't a reason to install something else (at work), I don't know what is

	24-05-2003 08:32									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: Still looks too much like a kid's toy. So you think NT looked too much like a kid's toy?

NT looks distinctly different. It's even more bland, which suits the business world just fine.

Of course, I am not saying all businesses abhor colourful interfaces. Maybe it goes well over with design firms, if most of them aren't sticking with Macs.

	24-05-2003 08:40									#38
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Don't use it. You'll become impotent and women will avoid you. You will develop a terrible rash and a porn addiction. And you'll become completely irrational and cross-eyed from looking at the badly designed interface.

Add to that that it will secretly tell MS about all the porn you've watched and then they'll blackmail you.

But hey, if you want to trust your computing to loons like this:

http://www.jasoco.com/lookhere/movies/ballmermonkey.mpg

it's your funeral.

Last edited by Agathon on 24-05-2003 at 08:45

	24-05-2003 09:10									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon But hey, if you want to trust your computing to loons like this: http://www.jasoco.com/lookhere/movies/ballmermonkey.mpg it's your funeral.

Good Lord, what a clown!

	24-05-2003 09:47									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Still looks too much like a kid's toy.

	24-05-2003 10:37									#41
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I run FROM WinXP... I reccomend you do the same.

	24-05-2003 10:47									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Willem Good Lord, what a clown!

Had you not seen it before?

I always look at it when I've had a bad experience with Windows. I especially like the end where he promises us four words and gives us five.

	24-05-2003 13:55									#43
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Ballmer is God, how can you not love him??

Ballmer.

If Steve Jobs acted like Ballmer does, rather than being rather flamboyant and blatantly mispronouncing things like Jaguar, I'd buy a Mac.

UR: Spare the thread your rhetoric about XP. XP looks identical to Win2K when you want it to, it doesn't look toyish except if your own perverse mind tells you it is...

	24-05-2003 17:41									#44
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XP does look toyish when unchanged. A friend of mine calls it "Windows Autist" for a reason. But you can easily change it so that XP looks like a real System. Mine does.

	24-05-2003 18:47									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Don't use it. You'll become impotent and women will avoid you. You will develop a terrible rash and a porn addiction. And you'll become completely irrational and cross-eyed from looking at the badly designed interface.

I know, Lefty warned me two pages earlier

	24-05-2003 21:30									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Ballmer is God, how can you not love him?? Ballmer. If Steve Jobs acted like Ballmer does, rather than being rather flamboyant and blatantly mispronouncing things like Jaguar, I'd buy a Mac.

Everyone watch the video of Ballmer. Then read Asher's post.

loony....

	24-05-2003 22:50									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Asher UR: Spare the thread your rhetoric about XP. XP looks identical to Win2K when you want it to, it doesn't look toyish except if your own perverse mind tells you it is...

This comes from a person who, in the same post, asserted Ballmer is God.

How do you expect people to take you seriously?

	25-05-2003 01:52									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger This comes from a person who, in the same post, asserted Ballmer is God. How do you expect people to take you seriously?

Oh my God, people took that post seriously?

Evidently it's not too difficult to get people to take me seriously, because I made a joke and not one, but two posters took it seriously.

	25-05-2003 01:53									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Oh my God, people took that post seriously?

Given your previous "microsoft is God" posts, it isn't out of character.

	25-05-2003 01:54									#50
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Ballmer is awesome because he's so ridiculous, there's a ton of videos of him giving pep-rallies that crack me up every time. Plus all of the quotes he has about their competitors, classic stuff.

He's up there with the Iraqi Information Minister for God-status.

	25-05-2003 03:20									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Ballmer is awesome because he's so ridiculous, there's a ton of videos of him giving pep-rallies that crack me up every time. Plus all of the quotes he has about their competitors, classic stuff.

Call me an old fuddy duddy, but I found his monkey dance to be embarassing. I'd have hated to be there and ashamed to work for MS. You can't go jumping around like that when you look like a fat version of Charles from MASH.

quote: He's up there with the Iraqi Information Minister for God-status.

No - the Iraqui information minister didn't spit on all the people he talked to.

Anyway, I liked this:

http://www.idleworm.com/tch/msadv.shtml

	25-05-2003 03:45									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Call me an old fuddy duddy, but I found his monkey dance to be embarassing. I'd have hated to be there and ashamed to work for MS. You can't go jumping around like that when you look like a fat version of Charles from MASH.

I don't expect you to get it, you've shown on this forum many times to be devoid of any sort of humour or personality altogether.

Exhibit A:

quote: Anyway, I liked this: http://www.idleworm.com/tch/msadv.shtml

Why am I not surprised you liked that?
It's only the same tired jokes we've been hearing for over a decade. It's even better because the only people who still make them are Mac or *nix users who don't have a clue just how stable Windows is today.

	25-05-2003 03:47									#53
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And for the record, Ballmer can pronounce Jaguar.

He's also considerably more learned than Jobs.

	25-05-2003 03:58									#54
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Well if this is going to turn into another boring (and wholly fictional) defence of Microsoft's virtues. I'm gone. As far as I'm concerned:

http://www.crackman.de/newtenlightm...onmicrosoft.mov

	25-05-2003 08:07									#55
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I really like how Steve Jobs has a brainfart and pauses for 10 seconds, then says something completely dumb and nonsensical when you look at all of MS' patents and innovations compared to Apple.

The difference is, the Apple Marketing Machine has succeeded into moulding the minds of all their fanatical users into thinking Apple is the one innovating ("the only company to ship hockey-puck mice!!!!", "the only company with the proprietary monitor connections so you get ****ED!!", "the only company with the insanely overpriced hardware that does less!!!") whereas in reality, Apple rips off most of their stuff from other people.

Hell, even iTunes (Apple's finest achievement IMO) was someone else's product repackaged.

	25-05-2003 08:12									#56
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"Everything Microsoft does is divine; everything Apple or anyone else does is rubbish."

It's like a broken record.

	25-05-2003 08:14									#57
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I never said Microsoft is divine, nor did I say everything Apple or anyone else does is rubbish.

Serious question, Agathon, have you ever not used strawmen arguments in debates? If you have, you certainly don't demonstrate that on Apolyton.

	25-05-2003 08:52									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I never said Microsoft is divine, nor did I say everything Apple or anyone else does is rubbish.

At most that is a mild exaggeration.

	25-05-2003 09:01									#59
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"I don't expect you to get it, you've shown on this forum many times to be devoid of any sort of humour or personality altogether."
Yes, fortunately your personality and humour is merely bad!

	25-05-2003 09:10									#60
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I have lots of personality, it just clashes with lots of people.

And I admit to having a terrible sense of humour, Canadians are cursed with high standards.