26-05-2003 06:08									#31
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quote: Originally posted by War4ever so its still crap?

Yeah pretty much. Civ3 was always based around SP.........and even though MP came later they didn't change the things they would need to to make MP work.

	26-05-2003 07:11									#32
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My mate - a t'rrific Civ 2 player - claims Civ 3 improved with something called "Play The World". He's urging me to try it. I've avoided Civ 3 like the plague - or even SARS - after the wholesale bagging it got. What is "Play The World"? Does he have a point?

I should point out that he hated Civ 3 when it came out. He has now decided that it's a good game if you accept that you can never win.

	26-05-2003 07:20									#33
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You should get this friend playing with us. Who needs civ 3 when we have the parrot?

Rise of Nations is getting some rave reviews, including from some credible people.

	26-05-2003 07:58									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse You should get this friend playing with us. Who needs civ 3 when we have the parrot?

He started a couple of games a few years ago, before you arrived on the scene. He's the lead singer with Machinegun Fellatio - that's a band, not something to which Peter Hollingworth turned a blind eye, although he would've if he could've - and spends months on tour so he can't commit to games. Pity. He's a very good player. Introduced me to Civ all those years ago.

	26-05-2003 08:55									#35
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I know the band. Still listen to music for young people.

Rise of Nations.............

	26-05-2003 11:15									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse I know the band. Still listen to music for young people. Rise of Nations.............

What is Rise of Nations?

	26-05-2003 11:38									#37
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quote: i am sure he paid for it

I paid for Civ2 and for Conflicts in Civilisation.

Apolyton insisted on a conversion to MGE so I had to find MGE quickly, using a site and a patch that will remain nameless.

However, could we not take some of this discussion elsewhere?

I see 35 responses, and how many help?

All the no-limits patch does is prevent rollover when you get to 32K gold, and a few other bells and whistles.

Has anyone experienced conflicts between the no-limits patch and older versions of civ?

	26-05-2003 15:13									#38
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quote: Originally posted by finbar He's the lead singer with Machinegun Fellatio

I saw them once, can't remember when or where, i may well of had a few before hand.

	26-05-2003 16:03									#39
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I don't know what the no limits patch is, but I lost my original civ mge disk so installed my original version of civ onto my new computer and used the conversion files i found at civfanatics to convert it to multiplayer gold. works perfectly.

	26-05-2003 17:03									#40
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Finbar: PTW is the expansion for Civ3, and MP was not available before it was released. I don't think the MP will ever be popular or that playable, but for a SP kickabout Civ3 is not as bad as some claim. The AI got a few tweaks for PTW so that it plays better than in the earlier versions.

It's down to time I think. Don't let it cut into your Civ2 time, but if you have more time Civ3 with PTW is worth a look IMO.

	26-05-2003 17:48									#41
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Civ3 with PTW is worth a look IMO.

* Hydey looks at his hardly used civ3 CD, thinks of his other mistakes (ctp,ctp2,tot) , remembers his pledge not to get suckered again.





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CIV3 CONQUESTS

	26-05-2003 17:52									#42
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I wont be getting Conquests...............but if you already have Civ3 then play a few games to get your money's worth. By no means does it have the longevity of Civ2, but much of the bashing was due to disappointment - there are many worse TBS games out there.

	26-05-2003 23:38									#43
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 I paid for Civ2 and for Conflicts in Civilisation. Apolyton insisted on a conversion to MGE so I had to find MGE quickly, using a site and a patch that will remain nameless. However, could we not take some of this discussion elsewhere? I see 35 responses, and how many help? All the no-limits patch does is prevent rollover when you get to 32K gold, and a few other bells and whistles. Has anyone experienced conflicts between the no-limits patch and older versions of civ?

Just install civ twice on your machine, keep the first SP version and install a new original version, upgrade this one with the patches and you'll have both.

To play MP you need to play with the same patches I think.

	27-05-2003 22:50									#44
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quote: Originally posted by atawa To play MP you need to play with the same patches I think.

Yes, everyone has to be the same. I have heard of rare occasions where all the players weren't synced and it worked for awhile, but some say those are urban legends.

	27-05-2003 23:10									#45
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it works for while, in the sense of a few turns before it crashes IIRC

	28-05-2003 00:48									#46
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Which patch do you have War?

	28-05-2003 02:07									#47
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i bought all my civ cds..its ctp 2 civ3 that are fakes

ptw isn't though, so i don't feel bad b/c no way u release a game without mp in this day and age....

its every other game i play that i pirate