14-09-2003 03:34									#31
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Let us restart el completely (but keep the current game!)

	17-09-2003 12:47									#32
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Sounds OK for me, but I am still not sure, if we will gather enough people.................

	17-09-2003 12:54									#33
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I don't have time to join in as a Minister, but I'll gladly continue to serve as Judge (or Citizen) if you want to continue this...

	17-09-2003 13:47									#34
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Well im still up for it, but this forum has been dead, i keep checking but no ones posted anything in ages...!!! *Sigh*

	17-09-2003 14:48									#35
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We still nedd Minister and President to continue.................

	17-09-2003 15:31									#36
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well i dont mind what i do... anything is good for me..

	17-09-2003 15:59									#37
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Do we have a volunteer for President

	17-09-2003 17:24									#38
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Well one would presume that the presidents role was in demand??? but your offing it out as if... well no one wants it??? well sure i would like any role, i am able to play most of the time after the usualy working hours (9.00-600 weekdays) how ever usualy busy late friday night, saturday mornign usualy got a hangover, but rest of time i aint got much to do...

	17-09-2003 17:36									#39
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The last few elections, we actually had most of the time problems finding someone to run for president..............

One of the big reason, why the DG stopped as well..............

So we can take you as a volunteer (don't mind the gun in your back )

	17-09-2003 18:13									#40
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Hmmm well if you think im upto the job, Och, Okay Okay, can you please take the gun away now i said Yes already...

	17-09-2003 20:27									#41
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It shall not be so hard. I would have run myself, but I am never sure if I can fullfill it in the best of the game Stupid work.........

Which gun I never had one ..........

Who is still a judge and around? We would need to get some votes together for our willing President !!!!!! Huray!!!!!!!!

	18-09-2003 16:26									#42
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I think mapfi, Frozzy and I are judges (mapfi being the Senior Judge), but I don't know if mapfi is still around...

	18-09-2003 16:55									#43
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I think you're right, but it is a long time ago, that I have heard anything from him.........

When was the last time he was online?

	18-09-2003 21:38									#44
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There seems to be some activity again here.

Well I am still around but I am not sure I will be able to make it for the chats as, when I am available, I am very busy as soon as the sun goes down.

Counting myself, since Frozzy's proposal we are only five to have posted something in this thread.

	22-09-2003 18:39									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus I think mapfi, Frozzy and I are judges (mapfi being the Senior Judge), but I don't know if mapfi is still around...

Locutus,

When was the last time he was around?

	07-10-2003 06:30									#46
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I'm pretty sure Frozzy has no interest in returning, we talked a couple months ago right after the last election and he mentioned no interest in playing anymore.

(I'm not interested in joining again either, just came by to wish you guys good luck against the enemy)

	07-10-2003 12:54									#47
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Thanks H Tower for letting us know

So this would mean Locutus is in charge?

ELECTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	13-10-2003 13:41									#48
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A game with five participants doesn't need three judges. It needs none. Neither does it need a constitution. Don't make it overly complicated, or it will die again. You previous game died, because it was too bureaucratic and people begun to lose interest. There was no need to copy all that governmental stuff from the Civ3 game, which had 50+ active participants.

As far as I see, all you need is a First Consul (the player and poster of screenshots, in war time he has the title Emperor) and a Senate (everyone else). Take a cool civ (not that it would make a difference in this game, it's just for the roleplay feeling). Rome coming to my mind, SPQR. Have the whole bunch of ancient civs as opponents, I talk about Celts, Germanics, Goths, Greeks, Egyptians, Carthaginians etc. Set up a nice map, make elections, create and keep a neat storyline, name your landmarks and your armies and go ahead conquer the world. It takes so little effort.

	13-10-2003 21:48									#49
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Good Idea Ralph...

There is an obvious lack of interest in the CTP2 game at the moment. In order to get it going again, somebody just needs to take charge.

Tyrranical dictatorship anyone?

After it gets back off the ground, and more people start to take part, the government can be couped and a democracy can resume.

	13-10-2003 21:51									#50
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Gilgamensch,

You might make a good dictator...

	14-10-2003 13:59									#51
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Well, it definitely has to be somebody who actually plays the game, so it's for certain not me. I don't even have it installed at the moment, so the only role I could play would be consultant and may be idea contributor. But I would like to lurk here again and actually see some action instead of sole spam.

	14-10-2003 20:45									#52
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Indeed. Its kind of sad seeing this forum so dead.

	15-10-2003 02:25									#53
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I agree reforms will be needed, but if one person has to fulfill the jobs of 5 people (playing the game, organizing the chats, posting polls, leading discussions, etc, etc), you'll have a hard time finding someone with that much free time on their hand. I for one would never run for such a position...

	15-10-2003 14:43									#54
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quote: Originally posted by centrifuge Gilgamensch, You might make a good dictator...

The only problem I have is sometimes my time...........

But I am thinking about if the French part of the CTP2 DG shall take over and get it started again and as you said, we have to start with a coupe d'etat to take over

But I'll check with my co-dictator and we will inform our slaves peasants afterwards

	15-10-2003 19:23									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus I agree reforms will be needed, but if one person has to fulfill the jobs of 5 people (playing the game, organizing the chats, posting polls, leading discussions, etc, etc), you'll have a hard time finding someone with that much free time on their hand. I for one would never run for such a position...

I thought Sir Ralph's idea was to cut down bureaucracy. That means the person in charge wouldn't do all the poll stuff and so. That is the task of the senate. So whoever of the DG members thinks a poll is needed opens a poll and if there is no dicision made the decision is made while playing.

-Martin

	17-10-2003 03:43									#56
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The people has backed us, the Coup is a success, so when do we start again?




The French part of the DG is waking up

	17-10-2003 07:05									#57
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Whenever the the Emperor pleases...

	17-10-2003 13:20									#58
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I am not sure, if I will already start this weekend. I am still waiting for input from you guys :doitnow:

	17-10-2003 16:42									#59
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You're the dictator, so go ahead. I already have put in all I wanted to say (which is pretty much all I know ). The only thing I would suggest is: Don't make lots of boring polls, like "Should we set the less or more goods slider to 60% or 70%" or "Public works to 20% or 30%". Think of an interesting scenario (be it the Roman one I suggested or some other), create a map with the appropriate setting (1-2 big continents if playing Rome, many islands if the Vikings etc.) and set all sliders to reasonable values. If there are alternatives, you can still poll, but keep it simple.

The make or break will be the right roleplaying. This attracts demogamers, and not lots and lots of polls about judges, constitutions and amendments. You could even attract me, if you do it right. Let your constitution be:

Death to the bureaucracy! Let fun and joy take over the game!

	17-10-2003 18:50									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Gilgamensch I am not sure, if I will already start this weekend. I am still waiting for input from you guys :doitnow:

Come on filthy Despot, you have got the power... use it!

I may be available saturday evening after 20:00 and sunday after 14:30 (GMT times).