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Comrade Tassadar
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She deserves death. Unless she has children, then I say 50 years.
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Zylka
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OUCH
To be honest, I just yahoo searched her name and that was one of the first sites listed - didn't have a clue of its purpose. Doesn't really matter though, as everything they've detailed in that horrific little bit has been confirmed as true. THE GIRL SPREAD HER LEGS FOR COMFORT WHILE A MAN BLED TO DEATH AND BEGGED FOR HELP BEHIND A PURPOSELY SHUT DOOR
...and to the fact that she was intoxicated beyond logic of caring for another person on ALCOHOL, MARIJUANA and ECSTASY - are you out of your f*cking minds? You seriously can't harm a rat under the combined influence of these substances, unless you're a sociopath whose only inclination is self preservation and evasion from punishment. It's often argued that ecstasy should have been named "empathy" for its emotional influence - something that she sure as hell stressed to avoid. Note that we're also talking about a NURSES AID, here; flooded with seretonin, this b*tch went right out of her way to force herself in acting illogically and ignoring the cries of a dying human being.
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Drogue
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Omnipresent conscience
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time: 05:29
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I agree completely with UR. The fact she tried to hide it does not change the act itself. She did not intend to kill that person. Yes drunk driving is definatly reckless, and using MtGs definitions, i would think it deserves felony vehicular manslaughter. It was also reckless abandonment that she did not try to help him. ANd thus a second charge of voluntary manslaughter. Add to that that afterwards she was quote:
hysterical and confused. |
Yes she was reckless, yes she killed someone, but she did not intend to kill them. She was under the influence of substances. It is horrific how he died, but she did not intend to kill him. One life has been lost, why take another? Why should the state pay for her to be locked up when she is not a danger to others. If she intended to kill them, then she is a danger, and thus needs to be locked up, however she didn't intend too. She is no danger. She was under the influence of substances, she was hysterical afterwards, so that someone else disposed of the body. All I see is a car crash, that happens to many people everyday. She is being put to prison for at least 25 years for not helping someone in need, for inaction. She is guilty of manslaughter, she killed someone. But she did not mean to. I would say minimum sentance of 5 years would have been appropriate, but I think it's nothing but a needless waste of ha life and taxpayers money to lock her up for a long period of time. What good is served by doing it? All I feel is sorrow at the loss, and compassion for both victims in this. I can't imagine how horribly this would scar her emotionally, hitting someone like that, watching them bleed to death. It is horrific, and I think she willbe scarred for life. I'd be surprised if she doesn't commit suicide.
Did anybody see the CSI where the guy takes Jimson Weed, and ends up killing his best friend, even though he doesn't remember or mean to. I could not help but agree with Grissom, and feel sorrow that he and not the dealer was on trial for murder.
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Originally posted by Drogue
I agree completely with UR. |
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She was under the influence of substances. It is horrific how he died, but she did not intend to kill him. |
HEY THERE - SHE HAD TWO F*CKING DAYS TO SOBER UP AFTERWARDS, IN WHICH TIME THE MAN BEGGED FOR HELP AS A DYING PRISONER IN HER GARAGE (Sorry to shout, but if you indeed understand what I've just said, I'll try lowercase in the future)
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One life has been lost, why take another? Why should the state pay for her to be locked up when she is not a danger to others. If she intended to kill them, then she is a danger, and thus needs to be locked up, however she didn't intend too. She is no danger. She was under the influence of substances, she was hysterical afterwards, so that someone else disposed of the body. |
Yessir, let the sociopath who stared into the bleeding face of a pleading man, turned around and locked the door go - maybe give her some Datura tea the next time she wants to DRIVE INTO PEOPLE AND CARRY THEM HOME ON HER WINDSHIELD. Where exactly is this pink marshmallow land you and UR call home?
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Did anybody see the CSI where the guy takes Jimson Weed, and ends up killing his best friend, even though he doesn't remember or mean to. I could not help but agree with Grissom, and feel sorrow that he and not the dealer was on trial for murder. |
Did anyone realize that you accept responsibility for your actions the second you ingest a PSYCHOTIC BEHAVIOR INDUCING, HIGHLY TOXIC SUBSTANCE? Anyone else know that Jimson Weed is a plant and has nothing to do with dealers, rather an irresponsible hillbilly picking the seeds on his own free time?
Ok then, LET HER BACK INTO THE REAL WORLD 
argghgh;iuljk.l;kl/! @!$T$R23
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Zylka
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She imprisoned the man against his own will - he did not break his own legs and stuff his body into the frame of a speeding car. Does that count as murder?
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Drogue
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Omnipresent conscience
Oct 2002
time: 05:29
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
She DIDN'T intend to kill him when she left him on her windshield for days without medical attention, while he was bleeding?! |
No. Just like I didn't intend to kill the african boy who is dying because the money I pay in tax is funding the EU dumping food on hsi province, so his dad doesn't have a job.
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I guess that was just 'not helping', even though she drove the guy home and left him there, not responding to his pleas for help. Yeah, just 'not helping'  |
Yes. She deserves to go to prison for manslaughter on 2 counts IMHO. That is about 10 years.
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What are you, INSANE?! |
No, I believe justice should serve a purpose. What purpose does locking her up serve? Revenge, plain and simple. And that is it. Can't you understand that some people feel compassion? Some people believe in determinism too, whoch means that they do not believe she is able to control, nor should be responsible for her actions.
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Zylka
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Wait Imran - so what if he was hidden away dying and immobile from the rest of the able world!
Let's say she instead cemented him some nice block shoes and sent him to the bottom of a local river. The man is drowning and struggling for outside help on his way down - but not technically dead yet, only dying! As she stares through the surface and into his frantic, helpless eyes - she takes no responsibilty for cementing away his ability to escape, no responsibility for leaving him in a situation which WILL kill him, and no responsibilty for not telling able authorities of his plight.
Come to think of it, this might have been a fair situation for the man according to what he actually got. No one would have heard him scream under the water just as locked away in a garage - but they probably would have had a better chance SEEING him without a f*cking CLOSED GARAGE DOOR IN THE WAY
How can you see this as anything but murder?!
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Zylka
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Originally posted by Drogue
Zylka: I won't even bother replying to most of the message, since it seems to be insults as if we have no clue. We just believe that maybe there would have to be a use for locking her up for it to be just. However on the last point, you obviously didn't watch the episode I was refering to. It was the dealer, at a rave, who went to sell it to them, selling them the dregs at the bottom, when they had never tried drugs before. |
You have absolutely no clue - that's my point: so ignore responding if you don't feel capable. Oh, and buying/consuming mysterious seeds which you haven't a f*cking clue of identifying at a rave. THAT IS A 10 OUT OF 10 FOR RESPONSIBILITY - PLEASE LOCK THE DEALER UP AS HE WAS PUSHING A LEGAL SUBSTANCE AND OBVIOUSLY SHOVED IT DOWN THEIR UNWILLING THROATS HIMSELF
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Imran Siddiqui
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The Potterverse
Jan 1970
time: 00:29
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However that is not as bad as someone who murders someone, as in shooting them. |
What Mallard did was as bad as shooting the guy. She hit him, and then instead of getting help, she took him away to her house, hid him, refused to give him medical attention and waited until he died. She consciously and purposely hindered any attempts to aid him. Not only that, but in hitting him, she owed a duty to him, and she failed to perform that duty at all and instead, as I said, hindered it.
This case is basically like a bunch of drunks who walk out of a bar beat a guy to near death... then talk him to their house, dump him in the garage, and prevent him from getting medical aid, even after they've sobered up. Now if you are going to tell me that isn't murder, there is no hope for you.
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I believe Texas defines murder more broadly than intent. |
Every state does. Every state has a 'reckless' murder, which is extreme disregard for human life, which this case is obviously a case of.
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Zylka
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I can't do this, Sloww
You have to scream - or the eyes of the dense listener simply glaze over and miss every single defence collapsing point you make
Can you hear me if I simply talk in a deep voice instead? Do you see how this woman dragged a man into confinement and let him drown in blood? Good, we're making progress!
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