28-06-2003 00:57									#61
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That is so......very.....wrong....

	28-06-2003 01:00									#62
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Couter is a rabid social conservative, little more than a blonde attack dog. Give me a William F. Buckley, or the older Podhoretz anyday over the misfits that ake up the right wing schock guard of today.

	28-06-2003 01:41									#63
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That's her?

Bloke in a dress!

	28-06-2003 09:27									#64
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dojoboy, i'm like you: fiscally conservative, socially liberal. i do not appreciate hatemongers like ann coulter or michael savage. i do, however, appreciate reasoned and diplomatic pundits, such as krauthammer, hannity, boortz, and sullivan.

there is a difference between that latter group and the groups of people including coulter and savage. the former is willing to think that liberals are misguided and stupid, but basically good.
savage, coulter, and their ilk, think anybody who isn't with them is against them.

	28-06-2003 10:00									#65
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Dojo -

quote: I made the journey from liberalism to conservatism and grateful for it.

That was a short trip.

Spencer -

quote: You dont have to be at war to commit treason

You do need an enemy, therefore, you do need a war. So, are we at war with China? Is China the enemy? If you say yes, shouldn't we be arresting all those people who trade with China as well as all the consumers who but Chinese products?

	28-06-2003 10:06									#66
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Cubed -

quote: i do, however, appreciate reasoned and diplomatic pundits, such as krauthammer, hannity...

You have to be kidding! Hannity is one of the most obnoxious people on talk TV, and Krauthammer was a primary media player pushing the "crack baby" myth. God only knows how many "crack babies" remained in foster care because this wackjob scared the hell out of people seeking to adopt.

	28-06-2003 10:15									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp That's her? Bloke in a dress!

Repressed confusion about one's sexual identity is a terrible thing.

	28-06-2003 10:25									#68
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quote: You have to be kidding! Hannity is one of the most obnoxious people on talk TV, and Krauthammer was a primary media player pushing the "crack baby" myth. God only knows how many "crack babies" remained in foster care because this wackjob scared the hell out of people seeking to adopt.

i didn't say i particularly liked hannity. i don't have that much respect for him, either, since he drools over coulter as if she's some amazing wonder woman. his radio show (haven't seen his tv) is passable; he doesn't spew hate, nor is he particularly aggressive on the air, unlike O'Reilly.
Krauthammer, outside of the "crack baby" thing, I've found I agree with slightly more often; particularly his opinions about space travel, for whatever that's worth.

	28-06-2003 10:33									#69
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quote: Originally posted by dojoboy Simply, I veiw her existence as a necessary evil to counteract her liberal equivalent (pick one).

Who among "liberal" American political comentators/writers has the equivalent to this: "My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is that he did not go to the New York Times building." :???:

Apparently, terrorism and mass murder are only regrettable if they fail to target those you don't like.

Rather than justifying one moronic (she's a mediocre writer at best, bad at worst) ideologue on the basis of another, it would probably be more productive for everyone if the idiot fringe were shunned in favor of those who can concisely and rationally advocate their positions. Coulter will never amount to being a pimple on the ass of someone like Buckley, for one example.

quote: But, I'd gather her point is that emotional issues w/ absence of rational thought = bad policies . Using generalizations to make a point, I'd guess.

Good thing she's not in a policy making position, because emotion with the absense of rational thought is Coulter's forte.

	28-06-2003 10:38									#70
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"Good thing she's not in a policy making position, because emotion with the absense of rational thought is Coulter's forte."

Michael - I thought you knew???

The great Apolyton scientists, by method of advanced adam's apple location, have proven that Coulter is a man, and thus is not subject to rule of emotions, as he brilliantly showed by advocating the demolition of the New York Times building.

	28-06-2003 11:04									#71
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You know, if Ann practiced what she preached, she should shut the **** up, put on an apron and cook her husband a nice dinner in the kitchen (while barefoot and pregnant).

	28-06-2003 11:57									#72
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hmm this makes sense

people would be more wililing to listen to a blonde woman conservative than an old white guy conservative.

You gotta admit- conservatives are smart peeople.

so you have a guy do some sort of sex change- or maybe he's just a crossdresser- or whatever those freaks like to be called now days. and being a woman is a better way to sell more books and get more people to listen.

	28-06-2003 12:11									#73
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I have to admit, all the Coulterites coming out of the woodwork for this thread cracked me up.

	28-06-2003 12:13									#74
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I don't get it either. There are much better conservatives out there.

She's a nut.

	28-06-2003 17:42									#75
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Who among "liberal" American political comentators/writers has the equivalent to this: "My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is that he did not go to the New York Times building." :???: Apparently, terrorism and mass murder are only regrettable if they fail to target those you don't like.

Sheesz, no one in their right mind would believe she meant this. That would be like trying to sue a comedian for slander. Very little posted here against Coulter exhibits rationale thinking. Her only crime is she is a female who doesn't tow the liberal-line. Conservative-minorities scare the hell out of liberals because it shows all minorities to think for themselves.

	28-06-2003 17:57									#76
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Give us the context that shows otherwise then.

	28-06-2003 18:06									#77
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker Dojo - That was a short trip. Spencer - You do need an enemy, therefore, you do need a war. So, are we at war with China? Is China the enemy? If you say yes, shouldn't we be arresting all those people who trade with China as well as all the consumers who but Chinese products?

The Soviets were our enemy but we were never at war with them. Nations may be enemies without currently being at war. China is a growing threat to the USA and we should not have advanced their ICBM technology. Any president would have been impeached (at minimum) for allowing the sale of the same type of technology to the Soviets.

We used to arrest people who traded sensitive equipment to the Soviets. I would do the same to those who trade such technology to the Chinese.

we're playing a dangerous game with the Chinese. We're hoping that by trading with them and bringing them into the WTO etc that they will democratize and become part of the 'worlds happy family'. If that happens that's great. But what do we do after giving them technology to build up their military to the point where they become a threat to us and they continue to be dominated by the same attitude that they have espoused for thousands of years? We wont be able to take it back then eh? Our national policies towards the Chinese are as screwed up as our policies in the Middle East.

	28-06-2003 19:22									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed i didn't say i particularly liked hannity. i don't have that much respect for him, either, since he drools over coulter as if she's some amazing wonder woman. his radio show (haven't seen his tv) is passable; he doesn't spew hate, nor is he particularly aggressive on the air, unlike O'Reilly.

A few days after 9/11, I was driving to a restaurant, and while flipping through the radio stations I heard the unmistakably shrill voice of Frau Coulter. This is what she said:

"I'm sorry, but all Arabs who work for airlines or work at airports, and all Muslims who work for airlines or at airports, they need to be fired immediately."

Then the host of the show: "What do you think of that, Mr. Hannity?"

Sean Hannity: "I agree 100% with Ann."

	28-06-2003 19:30									#79
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She's a total ****.

	28-06-2003 20:09									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer A few days after 9/11, I was driving to a restaurant, and while flipping through the radio stations I heard the unmistakably shrill voice of Frau Coulter. This is what she said: "I'm sorry, but all Arabs who work for airlines or work at airports, and all Muslims who work for airlines or at airports, they need to be fired immediately." Then the host of the show: "What do you think of that, Mr. Hannity?" Sean Hannity: "I agree 100% with Ann."

I would not have lost any sleep over it at the time. A knee-jerk reaction to say the least. Fortunately, Coulter et al will never serve in public office. Rationally, it definitely would have been unfair. I'm not so sure about unjust. When an entire region of the world refuses to police their own, what do they expect us to do. A free America is conditional, not unconditional, and all the esoteric babble in the world will never change that.

	28-06-2003 23:48									#81
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quote: Originally posted by dojoboy Sheesz, no one in their right mind would believe she meant this.

So if she doesn't mean anything she says, why should she be taken seriously at all, let alone hailed as a political pundit?

Or is it she magically means what she says when you find it convenient to agree, and she magically doesn't mean it and it's just a joke when you can't explain it?

And anyone who can't read your (or her) mind and tell when she's joking and when she isn't is just a slandering traitor.

Nice way of ducking and running from answering about her "liberal" counterparts though.

quote: That would be like trying to sue a comedian for slander.

So is she a comedian, or a political comentator/author/columnist. Or does it magically change from moment to moment.

quote: Very little posted here against Coulter exhibits rationale thinking.

Really? Why is it then that a large number of intelligent conservatives don't think much of her. Why not ask those people over at the National Review, for example? The editor of NRO doesn't have much favorable to say.

quote: Her only crime is she is a female who doesn't tow the liberal-line.

AFAIK, Sandra Day O'Connor and Elizabeth Dole don't tow the "liberal-line," whatever that is, but they don't seem to get the reaction that Coulter does.

Coulter is a spoiled little New England country-club princess, who is a vacuous thinking, mediocre writing, publicity whore. Nothing more.

quote: Conservative-minorities scare the hell out of liberals because it shows all minorities to think for themselves.

You'd have to ask a liberal, because I wouldn't know, but I rather enjoy intelligent conservatives such as Buckley, Will, etc., and even intelligent liberals (though those are a bit tough to find). How does the ranting of a country-club blonde show anything about "minorities" let alone "minorities thinking for themselves?"

	28-06-2003 23:52									#82
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quote: Originally posted by dojoboy I would not have lost any sleep over it at the time. A knee-jerk reaction to say the least. Fortunately, Coulter et al will never serve in public office. Rationally, it definitely would have been unfair.

Not to mention unconstitutional, but what the hell, they're just a bunch of heathen ragheads, right?

quote: I'm not so sure about unjust. When an entire region of the world refuses to police their own, what do they expect us to do.

The United States of America has interfered forcibly all over the world in pursuit of it's own perceived interests, and in disregard of the locals own interests, as they perceive them. So why shouldn't the rest of the world feel free to retaliate against any American they find?

According to your (and Coulter's) rationale, "what do they expect us to do."

quote: A free America is conditional, not unconditional, and all the esoteric babble in the world will never change that.

Nice to know that the Constitution is "esoteric babble."

	29-06-2003 00:17									#83
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"Coulter is a spoiled little New England country-club princess"

Hey man, leave us out of it! We don't want her, you can have her!

	29-06-2003 00:31									#84
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She's all yours. Connecticut Yankee. Daddy a big-time lawyer or something.

	29-06-2003 07:58									#85
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quote: Sheesz, no one in their right mind would believe she meant this. That would be like trying to sue a comedian for slander. Very little posted here against Coulter exhibits rationale thinking. Her only crime is she is a female who doesn't tow the liberal-line. Conservative-minorities scare the hell out of liberals because it shows all minorities to think for themselves.

norman mineta sending us all on the bataan death march. is that exaggeration? yes.
i could say that white people have no qualms about nuking slants because there are so many of us. is that an exaggeration? yes. does it make it any less racist or hurtful? no.

what about the arab comments referenced above?

how can these comments be washed away? if a liberal did this, he'd be thrown out of the "liberal club", so to speak, tarred and feathered by his own kind.

yet coulter and savage seem to get away with this day after day. who cares about those knee-high soy-eaters anyway, huh?

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Boy, you folks can spin a web. I entered into this more or less saying I find people like Coulter interesting. Weave on. I'll leave it at that. In regards to 9/11 and the Bush Administrations policies, I leave this book recommendation:

Lila: An Inquiry into Morals
by Robert M. Pirsig

	29-06-2003 09:20									#87
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quote: Boy, you folks can spin a web. I entered into this more or less saying I find people like Coulter interesting. Weave on. I'll leave it at that.

i suppose we'll have to agree to disagree.

i just hope i find a liberal pundit as vitriolic as coulter, so i can have proper respect for her.

	29-06-2003 09:22									#88
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quote: Originally posted by dojoboy Boy, you folks can spin a web. I entered into this more or less saying I find people like Coulter interesting. Weave on. I'll leave it at that. In regards to 9/11 and the Bush Administrations policies, I leave this book recommendation: Lila: An Inquiry into Morals by Robert M. Pirsig

It;s your perogative to find her interesting. All we are saying is that we think she is a braindead shrill harpy who detracts form intelligent debate.

	29-06-2003 09:23									#89
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Forget the Coulter mess. I'm shocked Hannity let Colmes talk at all.

	29-06-2003 09:33									#90
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"She's all yours. Connecticut Yankee. Daddy a big-time lawyer or something."

She's from CONNECTICUT??? Oh, well, that explains EVERYTHING!!!!!!