01-07-2003 07:51									#31
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I don't think americans have it all that bad. one of the best countries on the planet to live in. sure if I were a lazy unintelligent bum I hope that I could be born norwegian.

but if I was smart and motivated I wouldn't have it any other way but american

	01-07-2003 07:52									#32
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I'm just wondering why anybody would spend 4.5 years in a job they admittedly hate.

	01-07-2003 07:53									#33
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Stop jumping to conclusions.

Secondly there is a thing out there called a recession.

	01-07-2003 07:54									#34
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun **Copyright 2003 ABC News.  All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.**

I find it interesting that you completed ignored this line of the article.

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quote: Originally posted by yavoon I don't think americans have it all that bad. one of the best countries on the planet to live in. sure if I were a lazy unintelligent bum I hope that I could be born norwegian. but if I was smart and motivated I wouldn't have it any other way but american

Motivated to do what? Work 50 weeks of the year, retire for 10 years then die? Don't be a salmon!

	01-07-2003 07:55									#36
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Conclusions?

"I've been working for 4 years now and can say without a doubt that I have HATED EVERY MINUTE OF IT."

	01-07-2003 07:57									#37
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Hey, you need to back the **** up.

Secondly you're embellishing.

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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever Motivated to do what? Work 50 weeks of the year, retire for 10 years then die? Don't be a salmon!

lots of ppl find value in their work. tho I have no intention of being a salmon. I hardly intend on leading a masturbatory existance either.

	01-07-2003 08:45									#39
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That's more than I get (to the original guy in the first post)

I have to work 1 year before I got 1 week of vacation time. After 2 years I got 2 weeks a year.

After I work 5 years I get 3 weeks a year.

We used to not have any sick days, but recently they have changed that and allowed us to use 3 sick days a year. We also get 3 holdays a year now (we used to have none)

	01-07-2003 16:34									#40
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quote: Originally posted by geeslaka I find it interesting that you completed ignored this line of the article.

Yeah -- I'm making huge profits by copying and pasting this article onto Apolyton.

	01-07-2003 17:10									#41
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i had a big post and then i thought why bother. i know that i will never be a wage slave. live life.

	01-07-2003 17:13									#42
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Truely interesting.
Never thought about how much Vacation Time Amreicans have.
Always thougth it would be somewhere in the Range of 4 weeks/year like we in Germany get.

btw.
how much Vacation does an american Presient get?

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quote: Originally posted by yavoon lots of ppl find value in their work. tho I have no intention of being a salmon. I hardly intend on leading a masturbatory existance either.

Having a fulfilling job is one thing, but if you'd rather be in work than off on holiday then theres something wrong somewhere

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quote: Charly Rok, a 38-year-old New York City-based public relations executive, is one example. Rok sometimes goes away on vacation for a few days at a time, but rarely takes a full week off. And even on the short trips that she does manage to take, she checks her work e-mails and returns phone calls so she doesn't miss any important work.

This is like the position that I'm in. I haven't had extended time off in over six months because I can't trust the nitwits around me to get the job done right.


Strange thing is, I feel no need for the time off anyway. I'm a homebody and a bit of of workaholic, so I don't miss it anyway.

	01-07-2003 18:00									#45
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This may be simplistic but surely if people get more time off it is going to boost the service economy as they do more leisure activities and go away on vacation?

	01-07-2003 18:01									#46
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Americans got it good. Israelis work for 5 1/2 days a week.

	01-07-2003 18:13									#47
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Article by Catherine Valenti Nearly half of 730 executives recently surveyed, for instance, said they would not use all of the vacation time they were entitled to this year, according to Cleveland-based search and recruitment firm Management Recruiters International, known as MRI. Of those executives, 58 percent said their workloads were responsible for the decision.

One job that I worked at I never used all my vacation.
The reason was that I couldn't find time to fit one in between all by "BUSINESS" trips that were really PAID vacations. 4 star hotels, golf, gourmet meals, and then sit in a conference for a few minutes or close a deal on a golf course. Don't let the rantings of America's elite fool you with their fake sob stories.

Where I work, (just had my 5th anniversary) I only get three weeks paid a year, but I also get 2 week paid for short term illness which I can take whether I'm sick or not. If I don't use it I get a 1/2 pay bonus at the end of the year. This type of thing is more common then you think, (since the last three places that I've worked had similiar policies.) So not all companies in the US are that bad. I would almost hate to see legislation passed since some companies might use it as an excuse to cut back to whatever the legislation proposed.

RAH

	01-07-2003 18:28									#48
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quote: Don't let the rantings of America's elite fool you with their fake sob stories.

	01-07-2003 18:35									#49
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Vacation time does kinna suck here, that's true. I get two weeks, and a whopping one extra day a year for every year beyond five (yay! ), and 5 sick days a year.

But...my solution is to just take the days anyway. Unpaid, which blows, but....gotta do what you gotta do. I just buzz my boss and tell him I'm taking a sanity day and he doesn't give me any grief over it.

-=Vel=-

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I'm glad that the OTers are finally beginning to see some sympathy for corporate execs.

	01-07-2003 19:37									#51
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All that some silly law about vacation time would do is interfere in the rights of people to make voluntary contracts with each other.

Whine and ***** all you want about vacation time. Just remmeber that not every place of business offers 5 vacation days per year - some offer a lot more. Go work for one of them if you would rather.

	01-07-2003 19:54									#52
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I work 10 hours of week

Jon Miller

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10 hours a week or 10 hours a day?

	01-07-2003 20:06									#54
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10 a week

usually less

Jon Miller

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I very often work 10 hours a day.

	01-07-2003 20:09									#56
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Slacker.

	01-07-2003 20:11									#57
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Surely any party that promised (say) 4 weeks holiday a year would get the popular vote?

Probably not. 2 weeks is customary. If you get more, it's a nice bonus. Don't think there is an outcry to change the MO.

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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller 10 a week

I have you beat. I get paid not to work. Not much I'll grant you but I don't have any real expenses.

	01-07-2003 20:12									#59
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My normal day is 7:00-5:00 sometimes more. But If I feel the need to leave in the afternoon to hit the links, no one gives me any crap. (I'm salaried, not hourly)

	01-07-2003 20:15									#60
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I wonder if this will eventually become an issue at trade negotiations and that countries like those in the EU who give legal minimums will start to insist on reciprocal legislation in the rest of the world or seek trade restrictions to remain competitive if they don't get it.