09-07-2003 21:10									#31
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It's just different idiosyncrasies. For example, I found Mozilla's personal toolbar feature very useful, and I like the way it has the "lock" indicator telling you whether you are on an encrypted page or not.

The really bad thing about the Opera UI is having the address bar and the back and forward buttons at the bottom.

	09-07-2003 21:11									#32
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I seem to have lost the ability to open new threads or rather 'Poly won't let me.
I seem to be able to post though.

I have been away for a few weeks. are there problems? what's going on.

	09-07-2003 21:13									#33
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Not that I am aware of.

	09-07-2003 21:19									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger The really bad thing about the Opera UI is having the address bar and the back and forward buttons at the bottom.

you can put them wherever you want, i'm sure of it. even on the side if you want.

	09-07-2003 22:30									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger The really bad thing about the Opera UI is having the address bar and the back and forward buttons at the bottom.

You can customise this...........mine are at the top.

	09-07-2003 22:44									#36
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quote: The really bad thing about the Opera UI is having the address bar and the back and forward buttons at the bottom.

you can edit that by going into the view menu.

	09-07-2003 23:17									#37
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But you still have those annoying ads left in Opera, St Leo.

	09-07-2003 23:37									#38
	Suffering from ads?

If they bother you then put your hand in your pocket you tightwad.

	10-07-2003 00:05									#39
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I don't have to as I don't use Opera.

	10-07-2003 00:13									#40
	Suffering from ads?

There are other ways to get rid of the ads in Opera.

	10-07-2003 03:14									#41
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PM me if you want to get rid of the banners in Opera.

	10-07-2003 04:17									#42
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The really bad thing about the Opera UI is having the address bar and the back and forward buttons at the bottom.

1. Opera 6 and Opera 7 default to them being at the top. Actually, I think Opera 5 did too.
2. Opera is very customizable. They are at the bottom of my screen because I like them there.

Hell, Firebird would get a lot of points in my book even if it just allowed for a vertical tabbar. StrokeIt works very well with it

BTW, doofi, if I wanted to get rid of banners in Opera, I could do it myself. I reserve such treatment for apps that expire.

	10-07-2003 04:57									#43
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Opera also takes significantly longer than Konqueror to load a page. btw - is there a keyboard shortcut for switching between tabs?

	10-07-2003 06:22									#44
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the 1 button moves you to the left 1 tab, the 2 button moves to the right

	10-07-2003 07:36									#45
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If that's too easy, there's also CTRL+TAB, CTRL+SHIFT+TAB, and the right-click-mouse-wheel-scroll.

	10-07-2003 08:48									#46
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo 2. Opera is very customizable. They are at the bottom of my screen because I like them there.

Can you add a personal tool bar and put a "lock" icon at the bottom right?

	10-07-2003 08:52									#47
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i would think it a poor OS if your couldn't customize something as simple as that

	10-07-2003 11:24									#48
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Alex/Skanky,

that would be illegal. However it's not an issue with such Open Source browsers as Mozilla.

	10-07-2003 15:16									#49
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And?

	10-07-2003 15:39									#50
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And what? Well, there's clearly ideological and technical differencies between Open Source, Free Software and cracked software. And it's all in favour for Open Source and Free Software as clearly it's 1. 100% legal, 2. 100% legally free of charge, 3. much more community friendly, 4. 100% public source code, 5. more secure as you can't be sure about the goodwill of all crackers, 6. Mozilla is known as more standard compliant and now we will also see CSS3 support, so there's development going on, 7. community initiatives unlike with Opera Software (e.g. Mozilla Evangelism which promotes web standards). You can't beat that all with a cracked Opera browser.

	10-07-2003 16:02									#51
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I still prefer Opera. Call me pigheaded.

	10-07-2003 16:47									#52
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Okay, from now on I shall refer to you as Pig Headed in the Wrong Direction.

	10-07-2003 17:14									#53
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quote: Originally posted by geeslaka Okay, from now on I shall refer to you as Pig Headed in the Wrong Direction.

Don't be absurd.

I prefer Pig Headed in the Wrong Direction who uses Opera.

	10-07-2003 17:17									#54
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i still like opera too. then again, i find myself frequently using all three major browsers.

	10-07-2003 23:49									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Can you add a personal tool bar and put a "lock" icon at the bottom right?

how do you do this in Mozilla? Or am I asking a stupid question?

	11-07-2003 01:43									#56
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Nah, you're not stupid. UR is just refering to the lock icon in the down right corner which indicates a secure (HTTPS) connection or an insecure unencrypted connection (HTTP and FTP). This is a standard feature of Mozilla, Netscape (ever since SSL was introduced back in Netscape Navigator 3.0) and AFAIK all other Gecko powered browsers. The personal toolbar phrase refers to the either the Personal Toolbar with bookmarks and such or the sidebar. Whichever UR meant.

	11-07-2003 08:36									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Asuka The personal toolbar phrase refers to the either the Personal Toolbar with bookmarks and such or the sidebar. Whichever UR meant.

The bookmarks. I don't like the sidebar because it takes up precious real estate.

	11-07-2003 09:31									#58
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Dr. Spike is pigheaded from now on...someone alert Ming in the name changes thread pls

	11-07-2003 16:00									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger The bookmarks. I don't like the sidebar because it takes up precious real estate.

It can all be customised. Have you even used Opera?

	11-07-2003 19:19									#60
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UR,

indeed. I have it hidden too because of that.

Spikey,

I have used Opera 6.03, 7.0 and 7.1, and I have always found them less good than Netscape Communicator, Netscape, Mozilla or Mozilla Firebird. This is of course slightly biased as I'm a longterm Netscape user back from 1997. So yes, I can stand behind my words as I have used Opera too. Not sure about UR.