10-07-2003 07:59									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Falconius They are in the Civ III Double Your Pleasure mod, along with many others.

Anybody who has PTW has the coffee beans. Just play TeTurkhan's Test Of Time Mods. Also, about half of my PTW maps are based on his mods. Not only are there coffee beans that can be traded, but also tobacco, pearls, and exotic seafood (crabs). You can add extra resources without otherwise greatly changing the rules.

	10-07-2003 10:59									#32
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	10-07-2003 20:41									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Quasar1011 Anybody who has PTW has the coffee beans. Just play TeTurkhan's Test Of Time Mods. Also, about half of my PTW maps are based on his mods. Not only are there coffee beans that can be traded, but also tobacco, pearls, and exotic seafood (crabs). You can add extra resources without otherwise greatly changing the rules.

I like the idea of pearls as another sea resource. That makes sense. It would also make sense to be able to use a sea unit to go fishing or pearl harvesting on a resource that is outside of any city range.

Do you think tobacco is a 'politically correct' resource?

This 'Test of Time' mod you mentioned - is that like Civ 2 ToT? I really liked ToT scenarios, so if this mod is similar I will have to check it out.

	11-07-2003 08:47									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Feephi Do you think tobacco is a 'politically correct' resource?

Why not? Tobacco is legal. It was historically important. And no, I don't smoke. I don't care if things are PC in my PC either.

quote: Originally posted by Feephi This 'Test of Time' mod you mentioned - is that like Civ 2 ToT? I really liked ToT scenarios, so if this mod is similar I will have to check it out.

Well, it's not an entire add-on like Civ 2 ToT was. But it is a mod with sweeping changes. He has 31 civs, new units like the flamethrower, separate infantries for British, French, Germans, etc.; some cool leaderheads, etc. Do you have PTW?

	11-07-2003 23:41									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Feephi I like the idea of pearls as another sea resource. That makes sense. It would also make sense to be able to use a sea unit to go fishing or pearl harvesting on a resource that is outside of any city range. Do you think tobacco is a 'politically correct' resource? This 'Test of Time' mod you mentioned - is that like Civ 2 ToT? I really liked ToT scenarios, so if this mod is similar I will have to check it out.

hi ,

we had this talk before , several times , ........

here is a Q , is oil a political resource , ....


the main point is , its a game , nothing is perfect in the real world , so why should it be any different from a game , .......

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	12-07-2003 03:31									#36
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Amen, let us not talk about politics, anyones, either side of it. Lots of places to do that.

	12-07-2003 09:44									#37
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I added a bunch of spices into my games in addition to to oh-so-descriptive "spices". Vanilla, cocoa, peppers, coffee, sugar, and tea, among others. One reason I did this was that spices were the driving force behind trade, more than anything else, and deserved more representation -- each of the items I listed are major trade items, from antiquity and into today.

Besides, most of them give people a reason to be happy about jungles...

	12-07-2003 09:50									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Peter Triggs IIRC, someone once suggested that we add these into CTP2. A city with a brewery gets a significant happiness boost. Great idea, but no-one ever got around to doing it.

I did, actually.

I made hops a strategic resource, then created a "famous brewery" small wonder to go with it.

Why a small wonder?

Because you can't make a building that requires the resource to be within the city limits.

	12-07-2003 09:52									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Tiberius But if you are not a big fan of modding and you are playing with standard rules then you still don't have coffee. Coffee is not that important to me to eliminate some other luxury because of it. Nevertheless including it within the standard/default luxuries would make sense. ...and a significant productivity reduction

Why would you eliminate a luxury? PTW removed the limits (at least, I haven't run into them yet).

	12-07-2003 11:27									#40
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I'd prefer coffee over incense and ivory...

	12-07-2003 16:46									#41
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I prefer ivory over just about any luxury in C3C.

	12-07-2003 18:44									#42
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hi ,

how many people mod the rescources , ........

furs for example , they should give one food , .....

so does ivory , .....

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	12-07-2003 21:10									#43
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I agree. I boosted all the resources, especially strategic, to make them much more worth fighting over.