08-07-2003 01:50									#31
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He keeps saying he's the best at being a firer-starter too.

	08-07-2003 01:50									#32
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Isn't the techno group called The Prodigy. It's a small difference but it might be enough to tell them apart from the rapper.

	08-07-2003 01:51									#33
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Is it the Twista song Unsolved Mystery?

[Twista]
I know a whole bunch of mother****ers thats prepared whoop
Leave a body bloody red to scoop
Poppin off lead for loot
Shot the ***** up from head to boot
Just for talkin dramatic when it was static you was scared to shoot
Police prepared to swoop
To catch a nigga on the runway but don't none stay for the white chalk
If aired out your tip whatch your lip niggas pipes talk
I you wasn't seen then you might walk
Even if it ain't the time of day niggas will find a way like locos off of nodos
Cappin when you servin your blows niggas doze hoes
Got the popos posin as hobos
Take a photo of him please
Tell the Chi Town he freeze they don't give a **** if it was DT's
They be up like the sea breeze on CC's
And they handin out these murders like free cheese
Could you pass me the B please
I got intercate **** to kick even though I campaign with a gang
Bumpin though in different denominations in the nations,
and the nations racin worried bacause I'm slangin the thangs
If you can ahng up at my town up a K Town
if you dissin them then you dissin me
Niggas actin like they glad to die so if you had to try,
if they faded you it wouldn't mean **** to me
just a unsolved mystery

[Chorus]2x
Before I saw his body lyin down
I heard a mother****er crying now
Have you ever seen a ***** nigga give into mysery
And left an unsolved mystery
Before I saw his body lyin down
I heard a mother****er crying now
Call the popo the man and mess
Shot up his head and chess
Put to rest now the rest should be history
Before I saw his body lyin down
I heard a mother****er crying now
Have you ever seen a ***** nigga give into mysery
And left an unsolved mystery
Before I saw his body lyin down
I heard a mother****er crying now
Niggas actin like they glad to die
So if you had to try
If they faded you it wouldn't mean **** to me

[2nd vesre]
In a hoopty shorty's will design a spot
So when the get pulled over them people wouldn't find the spot
But if you ain't got it hid you have the flowest
if you can throw it and mother****er its a nine to knot
Just go back to where your thang lay
Cause lo key niggas they started out in the gang way
But if you wild when your aim spray
Them niggas that you aired out is gonna be comin back the same day
In the middle of a war you ain't on the tip
if you get the guns and clips to keep doin what you doin
Is it the same chiefs that got the same beef
claimin they ain't been doin the bruh be givin it to 'em
Flamboyant niggas must be slow
If your ***** ain't get popped then its a blessin she a lucky hoe
Cause no matter where the **** he go
In K Town they will dress him in a casket and tuxedo
Cause you can't be actin thug roof
Because of Hennesey and drug use these niggas love juice
Some don't even considered gettin caught
cause when you talk up some **** the gonna be quick and let the slugs loose
These mother****ers heart is love boo
Especially like them niggas up at Ghostown Windy City snipe
Cause its a pitty when hype
For niggas wanna get witty
For comin too pretty
Get the chilli filled and desipher
To pay the piper and bow to viper
Twice is rough
Now is what I'm kickin hype enough
Cause everytime I puff and write this stuff
I kick a frenzy facin ****in and fury cause I dont like to bluff
So if we ever get into it and let the static get to me
Lets squash it and make it history
Niggas actin like the glad to die
So if you had to try
If they faded you it wouldn't mean **** to me
Just an unsolved mystery

[Chorus]

[3rd verse]
Now listen they be kickin hocus pocus
I done said **** to put your mother****ing eyes out of focus
So writing what I wrote is hopeless
If you see our base and you said then you better be ferosheous
And matter fact I hope the dopest
For to try to cope this is hopeless
Cause my lethal rhymes
Is the kind that can beat you blind
And pre-design
I pee through mine
Like I see through lines
Check the brain and see define
The reason I'm gunnin I tried the runnin
Cause I should have let you know
I don't give a **** you was fronted because you was blunted
West side to the hunters you can't step to hoe
In the state of emergency urgenlty the ambulance will come
And then the law will come demand the gun
But bullshit irrelevence they need evidence
or trippin on elegance they be holdin out they hands for some
If anything they'll hand 'em some
Or get wit him here come the victum he be shot up in his pants and lungs
Cause he actin hard and ran his tongue
Don't mean another nigga he meet in the street gonna be the man to run
Cause a prison is some **** to see
Matter of fact **** the talkin my lip let me hit the B
Niggas actin like they glad to die
So if you had to try
If they faded you it wouldn't mean **** to me
Just an unsolved mystery

	08-07-2003 01:55									#34
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I know it's vague .. I think it's not that old, since it was on this extreme sports channel at backround while there was a snowboard big jump competition, and they tend to play mostly new than old. Though it could be older if it's more classic. I think it's late 90's at the latest. I don't know how to describe the beat, because I only heard it once and I can't remember very much because it was so good.. .. It wasn't jazzy though, even when it had that piano thing going on. The piano went with the beat, and was not used for melodies. Only one rapper. And his voice sounded a little bit like the guy in Blackalicious - Alphabet Aerobics if you know that song.. it was more gentle voice and soft, but it wasn't dragging at all like sounding lazy or anything like that. Aaagh, I'm afraid this is impossible

	08-07-2003 01:59									#35
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was it unsolved mystery? i havent heard this song but it seems like it fits your description a little...

	08-07-2003 02:00									#36
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Albert Speer, well.. you know at the end of the track I started listening a bit those lyrics, so I could identify it later, but all that stuck in my head was mystery, because I had a feeling it could be the name of the song, or at least part of the name. I'll check that one out, who knows maybe I'll get lucky. If not, well maybe I like it anyway.

	08-07-2003 02:06									#37
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Azazel/Oerdin:

I've been getting back into a Montreal band called the Planet Smashers, and you both may want to check 'em out. They carry the unfortunate label of 'ska', but their music is a lot more digestable and catchy than most of the generic stuff that floods that genre. (Plus, they've turned into commies, nudge nudge, Az!)

If you wanna check 'em out, stay away from their earlier stuff. It's instrumentally sound, but a little too... silly, lyrically. Top priority downloads would be "Struggle", "Fabricated", or "Blind". Give 'em a try.

And, of course, I've got to give my reference to Dead Kennedys, which, if you haven't already enjoyed, you will not regret (Stefu can back me up on this). "Halloween", "Government Flu", "Well-Paid Scientist", "Moon Over Marin", "Chemical Warfare"... All great downloads.

Oh, and check out Eels if you haven't already. The Electro-Shock Blues album is the best pop to be released in the last 5 years, I'd wager.

Let me know how it turns out!

	08-07-2003 02:09									#38
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Dead Kennedys... never really experienced them.

Will give a try to your recommendations.


Oh, and if someone will say Matchbox 20, I'd be rather angry. Some lyrics were just laughable.

	08-07-2003 02:14									#39
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Albert Speer, no match.. but that's ok. It's like looking for a needle in a.. something big. Thanks for the help though.

Azazel, well try... www.paxahau.com
Then go to archives and browse through. If you like some of those sets, then I will direct you further what to get.

	08-07-2003 02:15									#40
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I'll kazaa the Planet Smashers, Dead Kennedys, and Eels when I get home from work. Thanks.

	08-07-2003 02:20									#41
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a Band that makes the most varied music around is New Order.

	08-07-2003 02:23									#42
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I have all the New Order CDs. I really like their old stuff from the 80's.

	08-07-2003 02:23									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel My current play list ****ing pathetic, with some 220 songs or so ( some of them are full albums, but that's meaningless) Recommend me new music, new tracks that I'd download. I like strong techno, Deftones-like hardcore, punk in healthy doses. So apolyton, decide my fate. what will I listen to?

hi ,

, try the forums of glz , it may sound strange , but try them , .....

and bring some money when in europe , so you can buy some intresting disk's , .....

have a nice day

	08-07-2003 02:28									#44
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will do, panag, will do. ( Though I can find most of the stuff from the comfort of my home. IYKWIM)

	08-07-2003 02:33									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel will do, panag, will do. ( Though I can find most of the stuff from the comfort of my home. IYKWIM)

hi ,

yeah , but on those forums , hlala: , ......

actually found great music there , .....

and start to save for money , so you can buy duty free on the airport

have a nice early morning

	08-07-2003 02:35									#46
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which reminds me... time to catch some zzz's. going to get my paycheck tomorrow.

	08-07-2003 02:36									#47
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Azazel, nah.. It's Players Ball tomorrow.. he won't be home tomorrow .

	08-07-2003 02:38									#48
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In addition to Firewater (anyone planning to DL them might want to start with, for instance, "So Long, Superman" or "Car Crash Collaborator"), I'll throw a recommendation for that fine Finnish band, CMX. Kultanaamio and Ainomieli would be fine examples of their poppier songs, while, fr. ex., Nainen Tanssii Tangoa, Pyhiinvaeltaja or Laulu Palavasta Linnusta are bit more ecletic and harder. They sing in Finnish, but that shouldn't stop anyone, dammit.

	08-07-2003 02:59									#49
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Pekka:

quote: It's like looking for a needle in a.. something big

i think you meant looking for a crab in a virgin's bush

	08-07-2003 03:43									#50
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I cannot stress this enough. OPETH
If you have not heard them, you must.
I recommend Deliverance, Bleak, The Leper Affinity, Demon of the Fall, April Ethereal, and every other song they have ever made.

Old Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, and Faith No More are always good if you don't already listen to them. At the Drive In is great, especially Relationship of Command, their last album together. Korn's first album is classic, but I don't recommend any other one's.

	08-07-2003 04:37									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer HIP HOP HORRAAAAY! HOOOO! HEEEEY! HIP HOP HORRAAAAY!

Hip Hop? You can't say that any more....

quote: WHO REALLY OWNS HIP HOP? USE THE TERM 'HIP HOP' & PAY A LICENSING FEE by Davey D It looks like the Hip Hop community now faces its biggest challenge. Forget police task forces or discriminating night club owners, folks will now have to gear up to do some serious battle with a Los Angeles businessman named Richard Gonahangya and his company America Media Operative Inc. For those who don't know AMO Inc is a little known company that specializes in lobbying Congress and advising government officials on media policy. They yield a lot of influence over the FCC and other agencies that determine policy. The word around town is 'what they say goes'. Gonahangya a staunch conservative, held a small press conference in Compton, Ca yesterday to announce that his company AMO Inc had recently trademarked and brought the rights to the word/phrase 'Hip Hop'. As a result they will soon start charging a licensing fee for anyone who wishes to use the word in a commercial/ for profit project. Taking advantage of a provision in the recently amended Millennium Copyright Act of 2001, Gonahangya explained that he and his company have all the legal ammunition and clearance to own the rights to the phrase 'Hip Hop'. He noted that the Hip Hop industry has generated over 20 billion dollars last year in the United States alone. The phrase Hip Hop is now a powerful marketing tool and his company is posed to profit handsomely in 2003 from its 'proper' usage. The new licensing fee is estimated to net AMO Inc a whooping 5-8 billion dollars a year. "Any business including record labels, videos, radio stations or television shows that use the phrase 'Hip Hop' in the title or marketing body of their work will have to pay AMO Inc a licensing fee", Gonahangya told reporters. 'We are not attempting to stifle free speech or muzzle popular culture.. we have no legal grounds from preventing anyone who wishes to use the word in everyday speech, however if you are using the word in a manner that associates you with a salable product, then we fully intend to collect our fee". Gonahangya went on to explain that what he is doing is not unusual. There are many popular words that are used in everyday conversations that are trademarked and cannot be used in commercial ventures without permission. 'The word 'Xerox' is often used interchangeably with 'copy'. The word 'Vaseline' is used interchangeably with lotion or grease. He also explained that the word Rock-N-Roll is trademarked by a major label record executive who at the time could not charge a licensing fee. Gonahangya laid out his company's strategy for 2003. He explained that AMO Inc is giving record labels and performers a one month grace period to get their business affairs in order. Starting in May letters will be sent out to anyone who is using the term 'Hip Hop' explaining that the word is now trademarked and that if they wish to continue to use it in the body of their work, they will have to register with his company and be assessed a licensing fee. Letters have already been sent to several Hip Hop internet websites with more to come. He estimated the average fee will be anywhere from 2-5 thousand dollars plus residual fees per project. Permission to use the word will be on a case by case basis. In addition any future projects released using the term ' Hip Hop' will have to have the 'TM' symbol next to the word. When asked if he felt AMO Inc was being exploitative and attempting to blackmail a viable popular culture, Gonahangya bluntly stated; 'This is not about culture. This is about business... The laws have been set up for anyone and everyone to use. Our company took advantage of what was on the books for almost a year and that what we are doing is now perfectly legal... Hip Hop is a big multi-billion dollar a year business. I was surprised that a big executive like Russell Simmons or Clive Davis or even business savy rappers like Jay-Z, P-Diddy or Eminem never trademarked the phrase. Everyone in America knows that you don't do business without protecting your assets. It's just plain stupid to leave yourself this wide open.. If the Hip Hop community is that dumb when it comes to business then too bad. Don't make me out to be the bad guy". When asked if he intends to share any of the profits from licensing the word 'Hip Hop' with any of Hip Hop's pioneers including Lovebug Starski who first coined the phrase back in the late 70s or Afrika Bambaataa who popularized and spread the word, Gonahangya laughed. 'I never heard of a Mr Starski and as for sharing profits with people from Africa..No, my people are originally from Denmark, Norway. When another reporter told Gonahangya that Afrika Bambaataa was someone's name, Gonahangya shrugged it off and said he had no intentions of sharing the profits with anyone but his company and his family." However, he did offer a discounted licensing fee for Starski and Bambaataa since they coined and helped popularized the term. When asked if there would be any sort of criteria set up to determine who will and will not be allowed to use the phrase 'Hip Hop', Gonahangya explained that for most part if a company has the money and a viable revenue stream for residual payments then it should be a 'piece of cake'. As for criteria, Gonahangya explained that he has very little tolerance and respect for individuals and companies that are attempting to use the phrase Hip Hop for political gain. "Recently the term 'Hip Hop' has been positioned as a progressive/liberal movement. That's unfair and a totally one-sided approach to what is an American institution.Hip Hop is for everyone. It is not a slick political campaign tool for Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton or Hillary Clinton.", he retorted Gonahangya became evasive when asked if he would allow the term Hip Hop to be used by any of the conservative organizations that he regularly associates with and lobbies for. " To be honest we have not ruled them out. We believe that Hip Hop needs to be politically balanced. For years Hip Hop has been associated with liberal causes that have totally undermined the moral fiber of this country. We will be very selective as to how Hip Hop will be used politically", he said Gonahangya continued; "I will assure you this... In the future you will not be seeing billboards or magazine ads with the words Hip Hop' and Reparations, 'Hip Hop' and Affirmative Action or even 'Hip Hop' and Black Power anytime soon. If it hasn't come through our offices and been granted a licensing fee then its existence will be in violation of the Millennium Copyright Act of 2001 and we intend to aggressively go after any violators and prosecute. This about political integrity and money". Some are speculating that Gonahangya intends to use his ownership of the now trademarked term 'Hip Hop' to quiet down any sort of political movement that has been organizing around the term in time for the 2004 elections. We caught up with Greg Watkins webmaster of the popular site allhiphop.com and he noted that he had received a letter from Gonahangya's AMO Inc company earlier this month. "He told us in the letter that we were in violation of his this trademark law and that me and my partner Chuck would have to pay licensing fee if we wanted to keep the word 'Hip Hop in our name. We checked with our lawyers and found out that we were safe because we are allhiphop and not just 'hip hop'. It's obvious these guys are serious about collecting their money". We caught up with long time Bay Area writer and Hip Hop deejay Billy Jam who does the Hip Hop Slam radio show and has the website Hip Hop Slam. "Yeah this attorney contacted my attorney and said I would have to take the 'Hip Hop' out of Hip Hop Slam or pay a fee if I want to continue doing business. At first I thought it was a joke and then days later I received a subpoena to show up in court. I was told if I don't remove the word Hip Hop from Hip Hop Slam or pay a licensing fee then I could lose my house, my car and my prized record collection". Normally I don't give a damn about such things, but I can't afford to lose my records", Billy Jam said We caught up with popular Bay Area rapper /writer JR The Rap Slanger out of East Oakland. He said: "Look man, this country's always been about business and fools is gonna try and collect their paper. But this is straight up bullS%$T. How's this fool gonna try and trademark a word and collect a fee? Brothas need to rise up and retaliate and put a foot in his ass. But let's be honest, me personally I don't have to worry because I'm not really Hip Hop. I rap. I'm a rapper. There's a difference between rap and Hip Hop. I guess Hip Hop is gonna die but rap is gonna go on forever! He didn't trademark the word Rap did he? " As far as I can tell the word rap is not trademarked. Nor can it be because of it's long standing everyday usage. We checked with famed NY copyright attorney Arnold Esquire Sullivan and he soberly explained that the new provisions that have been added does indeed give AMO Inc the right to trademark and collect a licensing fee for use of the word Hip Hop and any other coined 'unique' phrase. If the word is made up or unique to the American lexicon then it can be trademarked and people will have to pay a fee if they wish to use it in any sort of business endeavor. Sullivan explained the new amendment went through around the same time they were crafting the Patriot Act. "It's a shame people went to sleep on this. I hate to say this but Negroes had better wake up and start smelling the coffee. These people in Washington are not playing". Sullivan concluded by noting that failure to comply with the new trademark laws can result in serious economic repercussions and a stiff 5 year prison sentence. He noted that the stiff prison sentence came after music industry executives and software companies lobbied congress for harsher penalties for bootleggers and other 'copyright' thieves'. "Unfortunately this new trademark law as it pertains to the phrase Hip Hop can potentially land people in jail if they try to make a profit off it', Sullivan noted. At the end of the press conference Gonahangya explained that he is currently in negotiations with a major broadcast company so that they will have the exclusive rights to the word 'Hip Hop'. Gonahangya declined to name the outlet that he is dealing with, but he did note that should everything work out according to plan this media outlet has vast resources and will set up offices throughout the country and help determine which projects and products will be allowed to use the term 'Hip Hop'. Gonahangya refused to say whether or not it would be an outlet like Clear Channel, Viacom or Emmis that would be determining who can or cannot use the word 'Hip Hop'. "It would be premature for me to give out that information", he said It is clear that big corporations and government lobbyist now own Hip Hop. Gonahangya also reiterated the fact that he is extending a month long grace period. He also used the occasion to pitch his new licensing service. In what appeared to be a real cheesy move he stated that he was offering a one time discount for the next two weeks. He explained that he understands that there are a lot of non-profits that use the phrase Hip Hop in literature and other marketing schemes and as a result they will be granted a one time 500 dollar processing fee and will subjected to the similar constraints of their 501 non profit status. That means they can not use Hip Hop as a political marketing arm. Non political Independent record labels and artist can obtain a lifetime license to use the word Hip Hop for 500 dollars. Gonahangya explained that he believes in doing things for the community and this is his way of giving back. "Let it not be said I don't care for the underdog", he said. AMO Inc is all about helping the downtrodden. We normally charge on average of 5000 thousand plus lifetime residual fees, but because we care about the little people we will offer Hip Hop [TM] for 500 dollars licensing fee for the next two weeks. If anyone wishes to fill out an application to see if you qualify to use the term 'Hip Hop' in your product or if you want more information on AMO Inc call them at 1-800-233-456 or Go to their webpage. http://pub12.ezboard.com/fpolitical...age?topicID=3.t opic or drop me a line at misterdaveyd@earthlink.net

	08-07-2003 04:58									#52
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:eeek: It took 8 page downs to get past that post!.

	08-07-2003 05:18									#53
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Distillers all the way. Try The Young Crazed Peeling and Red Carpet and Rebellion by them.

	08-07-2003 11:27									#54
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Rachmaninoff - Symphonic Dances.
Beethoven - Pathetique and Moonlight Sonatas

	08-07-2003 14:12									#55
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You might already be familiar with them, but try:

Husker Du - 80's band that evolved from a brilliant hardcore band into a brilliant pop/rock band. Try, from their earlier years, In a free land, The biggest lie and Pink turns to blue for example, and from their later albums, Ice cold ice , Hardly getting over it and It's not peculiar , although you can hardly go wrong with any of their albums.
Soundgarden - I guess you already know them, but if you don't really, try Jesus christ pose ,Flower ,4th of july and Head down .
Bad Religion - Great punk band. I recommend Give you nothing , No control ,The handshake, hell, pretty much anything from their epitaph albums or stranger than fiction.
Minor Threat - Classic hardcore, you might like it. Try Filler , Straight edge , or Screaming at a wall .
Therapy? - punk/metal band from the 90's. I suggest Teethgrinder ,Ten year plan or Die laughing for a first listen.

	08-07-2003 14:27									#56
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BANDS YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO:

311
Bad Religion
Chevelle
Coldplay
Filter
Five Iron Frenzy
Goldfinger
Interpol
Jimmy Eat World
The Mad Caddies
Me First & the Gimme Gimmes
NOFX
The Offspring
Radiohead
Rage Against the Machine
Something Corporate
Starting Line
They Might Be Giants
Transplants
Unwritten Law
The Used

I'm too tired to go through and give descriptions for all of these, but they're mostly all your basic punk/ska/alt. rock bands.

	08-07-2003 14:58									#57
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Turbonegro. homoerotic death punk

	08-07-2003 15:57									#58
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Hot Action cop. Album cover inside

	08-07-2003 16:18									#59
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If you're interested in some country, try the "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" soundtrack.

And as far as techno/dance is concerned:
2 Many DJ's, Laurent Garnier, or Moby (his earlier stuff).

And rock: Soulwax (the same guys as 2 Many DJ's )

And about the euro-dance-pop: Sophie Ellis-Bextor, and more alternative and blur-like, Das Pop.

	08-07-2003 19:50									#60
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az, i can't really help with punk and the like but i can with the dance music. here's what i've been listening to lately (some of it is a bit old, and some may be hard to find on kazza though :/)

dj jurgen pts. alice deejay - back in my life (thrillseekers remix) (euro-dance)
eddie lock vs the priest - la noche vieja (ruff driverz mix) (trance)
love child - liberta (moonman club mix) (trance)
baby d - let me be your fantasy (drum and bass)
tall paul - be there (tormentor mix) (trance)
michael woods feat. imorgen bailey - if u want me (trance)
jessy - look at me now (eurodance)
revelation - just be dub to me (divine inspiration remix) (progressive)
audio bullys - real life (house)
driftwood - freeloader (any mix except the god awful lasgo one ) (trance)
sneaker pimps - spin spin sugar (dark garage remix) (garage)
second phase - mentasm (oldskool)
ezee posse - everything starts with an e (oldskool)

and here's some non-dance stuff which i've been listening to lately

sneaker pimps - low place like home (downbeat/alt), the album 'becoming x' is great btw.
depeche mode - useless (kruder and dorfmeister session) (chill out)
morcheeba - the sea (chill out)
mono - life in mono (chill out)
mental generation - cafe del mar (chill out)
energy 52 - cafe del mar (michael woods remix) (chill out)
the herbaliser feat. what what - new and improved (hip hop)
groove armada - blue skies (inside my mind) (chill out)
panjabi mc - jogi (banghra)
jj72 - october swimmer (rock)