12-07-2003 03:30									#31
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This sounbds like fun, but I haven't actually played since the first edition of AD&D, so these new editions are unfamiliar to me.

I would however be willing to help with background and the backstory, that was always my favorite part of the game anyway.

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	12-07-2003 03:32									#32
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Game Master is less nerdy than DUNGEON MASTER!

	12-07-2003 03:33									#33
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exactly

and dungeon master brings to mind dungeon crawls which I am less interested in

Jon Miller

	12-07-2003 03:40									#34
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I have a thread in the story forum

at some point (maybe soon) we will need to leave the OT

Jon Miller

	12-07-2003 04:01									#35
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quote: This sounbds like fun, but I haven't actually played since the first edition of AD&D, so these new editions are unfamiliar to me. I would however be willing to help with background and the backstory, that was always my favorite part of the game anyway.

Well, if I get chosen as DM I will most likely be asking for your help then. I'm well versed in the Third edition rules, and somewhat familiar with second edition, but I haven't DMed much and could certainly use help fleshing out plots and backstory.

Also, if we decide to use third edition, Tuberski and anyone else unfamiliar with Third edition should go
HERE, to download the System Reference Document which contains the bare bones of the rules. Wizards of the Coast provides the SRD for free mostly for use by other game designers, but it's a handy reference for those who don't have the rulebooks and don't wish to get them.

	12-07-2003 04:04									#36
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If elected DM, I would put many things to a vote regardless of the outcome of the second poll. Things I would put to a vote:

1) Exact setting, though I believe FR will win any vote hands down, there's a big difference between a campaign that starts in Waterdeep and one that starts in say, Calimport. (If the players are ambivalent, I personally prefer Waterdeep, but that is a personal whim like the Welsh flag by my name, so I'd be quite willing to negotiate on that).
2) Starting level
3) Rate of advancement (i.e. should I be giving out tons of loot and exp or not so much (this can also be adjusted later)). I will not use the DMG way of awarding exp, and expect a fair amount of the exp earned to be based on non-combat actions.
4) Anything else I can think of/houserules

Also, I would suggest holding off the version vote until next Friday, when the 3.5 SRD is posted online. (Alternatively, I'd say vote on some individual changes that are fairly needed (Rangers become a much nicer class to play, haste and harm not overpowered, etc.))

	12-07-2003 04:19									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Bookwyrm Well, if I get chosen as DM I will most likely be asking for your help then. I'm well versed in the Third edition rules, and somewhat familiar with second edition, but I haven't DMed much and could certainly use help fleshing out plots and backstory.

I can also give DMing advice as well, I spent a large portion of my playing time DMing.

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	12-07-2003 07:06									#38
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If I'm DM, It'll be Forgotten Realms.

What would my campaign entail? lets just say, the Red Wizards of Thay, The Mulhorandi Pantheon, and Thor joining Tyr in destroying Bane, Cyric, and Set!

	12-07-2003 07:08									#39
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As a true paladin, i must say Tyr

	12-07-2003 07:10									#40
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I'd a thought you'd be a Torm whore.

	12-07-2003 07:11									#41
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i don't care who's the gm. i don't have a rulebook, but i'd be willing to play.

	12-07-2003 07:12									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar I'd a thought you'd be a Torm whore.

whats that? if i could be anyhting id be a genteically engineered Spartan II soldier, like Master Chief

	12-07-2003 09:54									#43
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It's clear that Brandobaris and his followers are far superior to all other gods.

	12-07-2003 09:58									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Victor Galis 3) Rate of advancement (i.e. should I be giving out tons of loot and exp or not so much (this can also be adjusted later)). I will not use the DMG way of awarding exp, and expect a fair amount of the exp earned to be based on non-combat actions.

That's good. That's one of my gripes with AD&D, is that you don't really have another way of earning experience. That's why most players turn out to be combat monsters, optimised for fights.

If there are ways to advance through non-combat means, roleplaying will be a much more important aspect.

	12-07-2003 12:53									#45
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umm

I can hook anyone up with the main 3 books of 3rd if they have a way of getting 3.6 MB sent to them (FTP, EMail, ect)

Jon Miller

	12-07-2003 18:39									#46
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Reply from Ming:

quote: After much thought... Please keep your D&D game in the OTF for now. And also, limit yourself to ONLY TWO active threads at any given time. Let me know if you need old ones closed. I will monitor how the game is going, and if justified, we will find a more permant place for it if warrented. Thanks for your understanding... and even asking in the first place

Well, this changes a bit. I guess we can only have one team now, unless something happens.

Anyway's, let's get started! Victor Gallis seems to be winning. Is there a consensus on third edition, or do you feel the pressing need to vote (as indicated by the poll)?

Jon Miller: I can put them up for download, don't know how legal it is though.

	12-07-2003 18:54									#47
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I think we should have mulitple GMs and parties

Snowfire will have one, Lonestart will have one, Victor Galis will have one, and so on (if they want too)

is that cool with the perspective GMs?

Jon Miller

	12-07-2003 18:57									#48
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hmm, other parties will need to do things like email that Snowfire is doing

also, Victor Galis could probably use help for the 25 odd people so I think that there should be multiple GMs (he shuold be head though)

yah, 3rd deffinitely seems to be what the most people are interested

FR seems to be the campaign setting the most are interested (And to settle multiple GM issues using a set campaign setting would be best)

Jon Miller

	12-07-2003 21:29									#49
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Jon, please mail me the third edition stuff at solver@apolyton.net .

Thanks.

	12-07-2003 21:32									#50
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ok

Jon Miller

	12-07-2003 22:04									#51
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btw

I have (for 3rd)
New Magical Items (Official)
Player's HAndbook
LSR - Sourcebook
Epic Level Handbook
Forgotten Realms - The Seven Sisters
Faiths and Pantheons
Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil
Oriental Adventurers (not sure if it is third)
Demons and Devils - Epic Levels
Book of Challenges
Book of Eldritch Magic
Sword & Sorcery - Hollowfaust - City of Necromancers
Dungeon Master's Guide
Deities & Demigods
Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting
Creature Collection 2 - Dark Menagerie
Forgotten Realms Compendum
Races of Faerun
Defenders of the Faith
Hero Biulder's Guidebook
Master's of the Wild
Sword and Fist
Monsters of Faerun
Manual of the Planes
Monster Compendum
Magic of Faerun
Forgotton Realms Adventure book
Legends and Laire Traps and treacher 2

I have all these in PDF (I also have a small copy of the main three books)

Jon Miller

	12-07-2003 22:05									#52
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I have even more 2nd edtion

Jon Miller

	12-07-2003 22:18									#53
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the emails you sent me were full pages of nonsense. i couldn't make head or tails of it.

	12-07-2003 22:21									#54
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hmm

what programs were you uising?

I sent you an email with an attachment

the attachment was a PDF

maybe you tried reading the attachment as sometihng other than pdf?

Jon Miller

	12-07-2003 22:22									#55
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Makeo, combine and decode them.

	12-07-2003 22:24									#56
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it wasn't an attachment, just a big long email full of gobbedly gook.

	12-07-2003 22:40									#57
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You can nonetheless still combine and decode them - some clients view messages like that.

	12-07-2003 22:57									#58
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Hmm... I currently have:

Faiths and Pantheons
(That book about evil organizations in FR)
Psionic's handbook

All my other books are at home, and I'll have access to them in about 4 weeks (but some like the PHB I have largely committed to memory). That being said, I need to figure out a way to get those PDFs once my computer comes back from being fixed.

	13-07-2003 00:17									#59
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the GMs decides all but Edition which is 3rd

so Victor (and company)

please decide

I (and a number of others) suggest FR as far as setting and point buy system (22-32 points) for character creation

Jon Miller

	13-07-2003 02:33									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller umm I can hook anyone up with the main 3 books of 3rd if they have a way of getting 3.6 MB sent to them (FTP, EMail, ect) Jon Miller

jon, could you email me the 3rd editon stuff too? ill PM you my email