22-07-2003 03:06									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident There are 20 character levels. And no, no subraces. In the expansion there are prestige classes, but no subraces still. Once you reach level 20 you have a problem. Anything beyond that is considered god like. I think they do intend on allowing chars past level 20 in a future expansion.

Anything over 20th level is considered Epic Level in Ad&D I believe. I hadn't actually played it yet because the documentation that came with it was somewhat disheartening but I will give it ago sometime this week.

	23-07-2003 06:14									#32
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I just had the most... interesting fight in NWN.

Level 13 halfling rogue vs. Guardian White Dragon (CR 19+ white dragon).

It went on for like half an hour, because: Dragon couldn't hurt me because of my damage resistance, except when using power attack and getting a very high critical hit. It's breath weapon was nearly useless. DC 29 save vs. my +27 reflex save and large supply of healing potions. On the other hand, I could barely touch its AC of 35+ (37 maybe?). Now, I know I was supposed to do something to make the fight easier, but I ended up using the brute force strategy. I have a strong feeling that was not a fight I was meant to win in that way (judging by how fast my henchman was killed).

	23-07-2003 11:48									#33
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are you playing the expansion module?

I know there is a white dragon there. I haven't got to him/her yet.

but there is an item I can use to make the fight easier given to me by a NPC

I should mention that some persistant worlds and modules do support subraces- kind of. They still have some limitations due to the way the game is (I'm not sure about the restrictions). But some modues do allow for grey dwarves, druegar, etc. But you can put in a subrace when creating a character. And if a module supports it you can get some bonuses or penalties accordingly.

	23-07-2003 22:23									#34
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what are we forgetting!!??

Fallout and Fallout 2. classics!

I'll mention again Wizardry 8. A lot of older Wizardry players suggest 6,7, and 8 for the story line.

Dungeon Siege...j/k

	23-07-2003 22:27									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident are you playing the expansion module? I know there is a white dragon there. I haven't got to him/her yet. but there is an item I can use to make the fight easier given to me by a NPC

No, chapter 3 of the original. The white dragon just got really unlucky because I perfectly equipped to take him down (or as close to it as a level 13 character can be), whereas he is very, very weak. +64 to your to hit rolls doesn't mean much if you can't deal the damage.

	24-07-2003 13:17									#36
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+64?!?

Ok, lets hear how you managed that

	24-07-2003 20:56									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Grumbold +64?!? Ok, lets hear how you managed that

No, that's the dragon. I was merely at +20 or so. Of course the dragon was the one having trouble with my damage resistance, not the other way around.

	25-07-2003 05:36									#38
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quote: Originally posted by MattH TheD&D threads are still open. There are 3/4, 1 coordination, char creation, voting for DM's, etc... Check it out in the OT

* ColdWizard demands links

* ColdWizard can't be arsed to search through the cess pool that is the OT

* ColdWizard wonders if talking in the third person is a sign of insanity

	25-07-2003 06:36									#39
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quote: Originally posted by ColdWizard * ColdWizard wonders if talking in the third person is a sign of insanity

Yes.

	25-07-2003 09:20									#40
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Rather than quoting MattH, you could have just used the bold links in his signature to find the two threads.

	25-07-2003 21:39									#41
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I have sigs off, which is your fault

	26-07-2003 00:51									#42
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quote: Originally posted by ColdWizard I have sigs off, which is your fault

There's a downside to everything.

	28-07-2003 08:40									#43
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Yay, beat NWN, finally!

Bah, so much work trying to do the final fight in NWN just right, only to realize the last time I tried to fight it (successfully too) that Morag was almost utterly powerless against me. She had one spell that could hurt me, which she cast slower than I could drink potions of cure critical. Only the minions really put up a fight. (Yay for insane saves of doom!)