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Nikolai is offline Nikolai
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Bergen, Norway
Oct 2000
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  Old Post 12-08-2003 17:36
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It was a lot of gerilja activity in Yugoslavia, but the game does not simulate this at the moment. So no occupation there either.

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I would say thats pretty ahistorical.

Unfortunately.
But on the other hand without the need to maintain occupation forces, Yougoslavia/ Bulgaria/Argentina/almost any country can become a superpower in HOI.

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well im quite sure the Germans needed a certain number of units for occupation duty - most especially (but not only) in Yugoslavia - I wonder if anyone has info on that - it would be a perfect question for a history forum, if we had one.

True, they have a lot of forces located on Balkans, but their major headache was occupied Russian territory. In occupied Russia partizans often controlled entire regions.

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Aug 2003
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  Old Post 17-08-2003 21:16
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This is surely the most ridiculous game ever. I'm sticking with Civ 3.

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Oct 2000
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  Old Post 17-08-2003 21:23
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THAT was a joke, right?

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  Old Post 19-08-2003 01:10
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Where's the inquisition? Burn him!

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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Don't expect them, and they'll come.

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  Old Post 20-08-2003 06:23
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Lynch him!!!

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Oh, and do the same to Serb, by the way...

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Good Catholic...
Still torturing dogs in your chamber?

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  Old Post 20-08-2003 18:28
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Yes. I show them your picture :P

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  Old Post 20-08-2003 19:33
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You people obviously love each other!

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Norway... I must find a reason to hate Norway.
You have a reason to hate one Pole; one our princess, when she became the queen of Denmark, made some your national hero die. It was such a nice story... She became queen of Sweden, and later Denmark
(and England, as her husband conquered it; but bad English don't remember about him, just his son, Canute the Great), but she loved that Norwegian only, and he didn't love her (hey! Now I have a reason), so she prompted his fall and enslavement of Norway. Good girl. It was in XI century I think. I may have got something wrong.Her name was Swietoslawa, but You barbarian Scandinavian couldn't pronounce it and there were some strange names You called her, like Storrada or something.

Another Polish princess (either it was queen of Hungary or Swietoslawa again), when one guy wanted to marry her,
and she found him annoying, killed him by herself.
I like those medieval stories. So romantic.

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Dec 2000
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  Old Post 20-08-2003 23:33
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Norway... I must find a reason to hate Norway.
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well as everyone knows Fortinbras of Norway defeated the Poles on the Ice, before returning and getting the throne of Denmark. Er, everyone who's read Hamlet knows it, that is.

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  Old Post 21-08-2003 01:00
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Norway... I must find a reason to hate Norway.
You have a reason to hate one Pole; one our princess, when she became the queen of Denmark, made some your national hero die. It was such a nice story... She became queen of Sweden, and later Denmark
(and England, as her husband conquered it; but bad English don't remember about him, just his son, Canute the Great), but she loved that Norwegian only, and he didn't love her (hey! Now I have a reason), so she prompted his fall and enslavement of Norway. Good girl. It was in XI century I think. I may have got something wrong.Her name was Swietoslawa, but You barbarian Scandinavian couldn't pronounce it and there were some strange names You called her, like Storrada or something.

Another Polish princess (either it was queen of Hungary or Swietoslawa again), when one guy wanted to marry her,
and she found him annoying, killed him by herself.
I like those medieval stories. So romantic.

Sigrid Storrada was polish? Any sources? all I find seemes to either refer to her as born in Sweden or leave that part of her life blank.

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Hate Norway? You should hate Sweden more, as I seem to remember them being more troublesome historically. And Sweden conquered the whole Poland and more once in EU2!(you won't guess who ruled them in the shadows!)

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I remember it from "Polska Piastow" by P.Jasienica. It is perhaps the most popular book on Polish history, and the first one I read... I think I read about that in other books as well... I think it is a common historical knowledge... even in papers... all people interested in history know that Canute the Great was half-Polish. I've read there are many folk songs about her, but didn't expect anyone there to remember her. When I mentioned her to a Swede I once used to torture with mails, He didn't know anything about it.

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Hate Norway? You should hate Sweden more, as I seem to remember them being more troublesome historically. And Sweden conquered the whole Poland and more once in EU2!(you won't guess who ruled them in the shadows!)


Yeah, Sweden was one of the most troublesome neighbours of ours. They conquered Livonia from us, raided us twice killing a third of population and about that the next time, ruined the economy and culture, ending our Golden Age, made anti-protestant sentiment grow amongst catholic majority, allowed Prussia to separate from us, and gave us the hopeless Vasa dinasty (I'll blame Finns for them as well, though).
Still...
Poles love Swedes! They are on the fifth place of our most liked neighbours, but it's pretty high, the best of all our neighbour. Strangely, they had even better marks in other mid-european sympathy polls. But they deserve it A BIT;
When we had a giant flood, they were the most active in helping us I think.

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Yes. I show them your picture :P

You don't have my picture, liar.
Btw, dogs can't see pictures, esp. your "blind" dogs.

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Originally posted by Heresson
She became queen of Sweden, and later Denmark
(and England, as her husband conquered it; but bad English don't remember about him, just his son, Canute the Great), but she loved that Norwegian only, and he didn't love her (hey! Now I have a reason), so she prompted his fall and enslavement of Norway. Good girl. It was in XI century I think. I may have got something wrong.Her name was Swietoslawa, but You barbarian Scandinavian couldn't pronounce it and there were some strange names You called her, like Storrada or something.

Sure you've got something wrong. Svetoslava it's a Russian name. But since Poland is part of Russia, who cares?

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Another Polish princess (either it was queen of Hungary or Swietoslawa again), when one guy wanted to marry her,
and she found him annoying, killed him by herself.
I like those medieval stories. So romantic.

Sadist.

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I remember it from "Polska Piastow" by P.Jasienica. It is perhaps the most popular book on Polish history, and the first one I read... I think I read about that in other books as well... I think it is a common historical knowledge... even in papers... all people interested in history know that Canute the Great was half-Polish. I've read there are many folk songs about her, but didn't expect anyone there to remember her. When I mentioned her to a Swede I once used to torture with mails, He didn't know anything about it.

Let me guess, this book also claims that Adam and Eve were Poles as well, right?

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Sure you've got something wrong. Svetoslava it's a Russian name.


It's a SLAVIC name, not Polish, not Russian.

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Let me guess, this book also claims that Adam and Eve were Poles as well, right?


Nope. Don't judge Polish historical books by your experience with the Russian ones.

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It's a SLAVIC name, not Polish, not Russian.

Wait a minute...Poles are Slavs too?
What a Catholic disgrace of Orthodox Slavic brotherhood.
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Nope. Don't judge Polish historical books by your experience with the Russian ones.

None Russian book claims that Adam and Eve were Russians.There is no need for this since everyone knew this.

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You don't have my picture, liar.


I have! See!

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This has been downloaded 47 time(s).

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So this is Serb? Reminds me of a Swedish children's books character...

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Exceptional drawing, my ass.

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  Old Post 27-08-2003 01:56
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Or how a simple EU2 thread turns into a Polish-Russian war...

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Shiit happens.

 
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