11-01-2004 22:52									#451
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Guys sorry I won't be able to play until Tuesday. I'm leaving for the Marine base to see Shang off (He's deployed to Iraq).

	12-01-2004 07:51									#452
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Best wishes to you both

	12-01-2004 08:53									#453
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Yes, best wishes to you both, HongHu!

	13-01-2004 07:39									#454
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Me too!

	15-01-2004 08:48									#455
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Turn 2203 to Rubin

	15-01-2004 11:29									#456
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2204 passed to Lord Chip of the Gaians.

	15-01-2004 22:54									#457
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It seems I'm pretty good about playing quickly, but less good at remembering to post here. The turn went to HongHu five hours ago.

	17-01-2004 13:13									#458
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Turn sent finally.

	19-01-2004 23:04									#459
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Turn 2204 to Rubin

	20-01-2004 02:56									#460
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2205 passed to the Gaians.

	20-01-2004 20:43									#461
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Guys I'm sorry to say this again but I will not be able to do the turns very frequently again. I've been busier and cannot afford playing every night now. I can guarantee at least once every week and will try to do more but is this acceptible for everybody?

	21-01-2004 10:09									#462
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HongHu: While I've enjoyed this game very much and have the deepest respect for the limited time at your disposal I really do not want to continue at 1 turn per 7+ days. This is my first PBEM ever and I've found that continuing delays greatly reduce my interest in the game and the fun provided. Additionally, the turn rate have been very poor for some time now.

To this, I suggest one of the following:

1) HongHu is declared the winner and the game is terminated.
2) I leave the game and the Rubinites get a replacement player.

	21-01-2004 17:59									#463
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HongHu:

My thoughts are akin to Rubin's. I've played in a couple of PBEMs in which the turn rate slows, and slows, and slows, until everyone loses interest. I think the sensible thing to do is to acknowledge your victory.

Long live the Princess of Love.

	21-01-2004 20:06									#464
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Guys I don't think we need to end the game yet. I have enjoyed this game very much (my first PBEM as well) so I would like to stay but I realize that I have been slowing down the pace of the game. That's why I was asking if you guys would like a quicker game for if so I was planning to ask for a replacement. There's no way that I should ask Rubin to find a replacement since I'm the source of the problem. (I actually played half of the game last night but wasn't able to finish it.)

I will open a thread here to ask for replacement ok? Please let me know if you are against this. Again I'm really sorry about this. It has been an absolutely fun game playing with you guys.

	22-01-2004 01:37									#465
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Somebody has PMed me about the replacement. I will wait until you all see this before I give him the final response.

	22-01-2004 10:09									#466
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Rubin was in favor of terminating the game over replacement. Should we terminate it? I feel very bad that I caused this. Sorry guys.

	22-01-2004 17:10									#467
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I say continue, purely because i enjoy reading through this game and wishing i was in a pbem with pace and storyline

Last edited by Lazerus on 22-01-2004 at 19:36

	23-01-2004 02:50									#468
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HongHu: Hercules remains silent, you are leaving the game and I think Chip prefers declaring you the winner and thereby avoiding a gradually decreasing turn pace and a 'slow death' of the game. I also opt for declaring you the winner. Maybe the lack of response to the problem suggests that we (the players) are loosing interest in the game--a rather disappointing scenario for any replacement player.

Anyway, that's my humble evaluation of the situation.

	23-01-2004 03:36									#469
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I remained silent because for some reason I must have unsubscribed to this thread and therefore missed the poly posting emails

I first became aware of what was happening when I noticed Honghu had posted for a replacement.

I 've just dropped by here accidently.

Seeing that I am here.

Well I always hate to see games end prematurely. All that time and effort. Otoh it is clear who would win .

I think it can be sad when someone who you start out the game with has to leave for whatever reason. A part of the camaraderie seems to go and you were all noobees together. I know I am no substitute for Gufnork but I felt keeping the name was a small gesture.


This game is interesting because of the patch 5. So if Rubin and Chip and Lazerus want to start another afresh I'll play.

Lazerus can maintain a pretty good turn rate and from my perspective it would be interesting seeing him start out a faction as opposed to taking over (mostly) weakened faction in mid to late game.


I'll go with the flow.

If Lazerus is offering himself as a replacement

	23-01-2004 17:27									#470
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I was late reading it, somebody else got it for this game.

	23-01-2004 17:54									#471
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My own silence can be attributed to my preparation for a boy scout campout this weekend. (The things we do for our children!)

I'm flattered that Hercules and the prolific Lazerus are interested in our game and would be honored to start anew with--and be pummelled by and (I hope) learn from--them. Let me, however, think about it over the weekend. The problem is that Rubin and I are already playing in the "Laptop Game", in which we average just under two complete turns per day. Although I can keep up with the turn play, I'm falling behind in my radio broadcasts. I don't think I can keep the on-air commentary going for two fast-paced games. (It's easy at first, though, because the same things happen in pretty much the same order, which leads to rebroadcasts.)

	23-01-2004 18:36									#472
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err im hardly prolific, i can still count my pbems on one hand and as for skill nah not really, i can handle military fairly well but tech beelines and stuff pff

i might be interested in playing new one however since currently im in 2 stalled pbems 1 extremely slow moving one and another which has just kicked off.

Last edited by Lazerus on 23-01-2004 at 20:59

	23-01-2004 20:19									#473
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Well since Lazerus had been following this game so it would be easier for him to get into it. If everybody feels that if Lazerus join in then the game can continue otherwise it should be terminated then I think I can explain to the others and they will understand.

	29-01-2004 08:49									#474
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Re Feedback. I wasn't in the game long enough to say anything one way or another. But your gameplaying looked pretty solid and the RP looked very good and sustained.

	03-02-2004 06:35									#475
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Thanks for the game!

I really enjoyed playing with you all. I've learned many, many things during this game and I think Hercules did a good job continuing the University faction from where Gufnork left it.

Considering this was my very first PBEM I think I've been very fortunate to be participating in this game with all of you.

CEO Rubin signing out...