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TCO
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Richmond, VA
Jan 1970
time: 00:29
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Originally posted by mrmitchell
If I remember correctly, and it was only about six months ago so I should, the only reason for going to war was being shoved down our throats--he was a madman with WoMD. No other reasons were touted near so much as the holy WoMD, for by it thou might convince Americans that war is a good thing; ....
Remember? The ultimatum was that Saddam destroy whatever weapons of mass destruction he had; apparently HE DID! Give it up with the trolls already.
The idea of America as a hyperpower to guide the world is possibly the most threatening thing humanity has ever faced. NEVER should so much power be concentrated in one entity. It's simple common sense.
As for your actual 'defend the world' argument, i'm terribly sorry, but no one ever elected America as the world's policeman. The only body elected to do that is the United Nations; which, however inefficient it may be, is better than some nightmare juggernaut crashing dictatorships and whatnot at its every whim and fancy. |
1. You remember incorrectly. THere were a series of reasons given. But then again you are stupid. WE can't help it if you only notice one thing.
2. Saddam was told to comply with inpsections. All agreed that he ahd not. If he destroyed the WOMD and didn't compy, he is an idiot. We can't rely on his good will. We KNOW that he has a history of cheating. The impetus was on him to comply with inspecitons. Not toss inspctors out , refuse entrance to palace sites, etc.
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yavoon
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Originally posted by Cruddy
How many Raytheon shares have you got then?
I find it hiliarious that people can talk up the US defence budget without considering who the winners are of such actions.
It sure isn't the enlisted people. |
why is enlistment mandatory? or is it voluntary? why do u think they don't win? because someone is rich means that people who aren't are losers? or by definition can not do things willingly(like join the military). to help themselves succeed?
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Zulu Elephant
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lol
A new phrase in the right wing's vocabulary of rhetoric
'stop thinking like a civ player'
Scene: Head to head TV debate during presidential campaign
Democratic Challenger: Could Mr Bush tell me why the US needed to defend Saudi Arabia by attacking Iraq
George Bush: I FIND IT INBELIEVEABLE THAT YOU WOULD MAKE SUCH A COMMENT...STOP THINKING LIKE A CIV PLAYER!
*rapturous applause*
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Cruddy
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Originally posted by TCO
Don't let it worry your head. Like I said, it's not your country. |
Oh, it doesn't bother me. I just like to tell people facts that others are a bit lean with - and the reasons why people are "economical with the truth".
Anyway, if the US military plays home, nobody is fussed. It's when they play away the world holds it's breath.
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Cruddy
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Originally posted by yavoon
why is enlistment mandatory?
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It isn't, as you well know.
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Originally posted by yavoon
or is it voluntary? |
It is, as you well know. What's your subject, "obvious facts"?
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Originally posted by yavoon
why do u think they don't win?
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Because they risk their lives for a pittance, a pat on the back and - if they survive - an education leading to a pension. Sounds like a sh1tty deal to me, compared to the shareholder class who never risk their lives, never enter a combat zone, and are most likely to die of an obesity related illness.
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Originally posted by yavoon
because someone is rich means that people who aren't are losers?
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No. Those are your words, not mine. However, the enlisted people are clearly not onto as good a deal as the corporate shareholders. It's not a winners/losers relationship - but one side is clearly onto a massively better thing than the other.
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Originally posted by yavoon
or by definition can not do things willingly(like join the military). to help themselves succeed? |
As I said earlier in the same post, I am not dissing the US military. You seem to have a partial blindness for posts.
If you want to promote the military's successes and achievement programs, that's fine by me.
HOWEVER, don't you dare bang on about defence spending without highlighting who gets the biggest slice for the least amount of effort.
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