14-08-2003 22:44									#61
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Well that's ok, since our subscriber fees will pay for super-whizzy (TM) equipment.

Thats not the point, there are still a lot of people out there on dial up

	15-08-2003 00:57									#62
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Well correct me if you know better but I don't think a 50% boost (for example) in avatar size for subscribers would bother the 56K modem users, if the server is being upgraded to handle the numbers problem.

	15-08-2003 03:02									#63
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Indeed, Spikey. Having e.g. 120x120 px custom avatars wouldn't hurt much, plus broadband will soon beat dial-up modems globally.

	15-08-2003 05:39									#64
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I had a dream last night that Apoyton had already implemented the subscriber scheme, and rather than increasing the size of avatars allowed, they just allowed you to have as many avatars as you wanted. So some enterprising individuals decided that to make an massive avatar in sections and ended up with an avatar 3 "normal avatars" wide, 4 deep.

I wasn't impressed, although I was glad that avatars were finally back.

	15-08-2003 13:40									#65
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That should be in the "You know you've spent too much time...." thread.

/edit: and as if by magic, avatars came back online when I posted this.

	15-08-2003 13:45									#66
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They were on quite some time before.

	16-08-2003 01:12									#67
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Well to be consistent I'd say you need a certain post count for the larger avatars, even for subscribers. 500 seems about right. So non-subscribers: 0-500 posts use bog standard, then small custom after 500. Subscibers: 0-500 custom, then large custom after 500. This could also be a little higher perhaps, maybe 1000.

hi ,



, the site owners have always wanted to keep apolyton for free and the same for all , .....

have a nice day

	16-08-2003 02:56									#68
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , , the site owners have always wanted to keep apolyton for free and the same for all , ..... have a nice day

Uh, it was Dan who invited discussion of possible subscriber benefits. Do you even read any of threads you post in?

	17-08-2003 19:47									#69
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Uh, it was Dan who invited discussion of possible subscriber benefits. Do you even read any of threads you post in?

hi ,

do you , .........


cause , huh , Dan is not alone , ....... there is still Mark , aldo many proclaim the fact he shall never return , ......

if you would read a bit of history and put one and one together , if they really wanted to go on the " paying tour " they would have done it like that , ...... they can have it implemented in less then 4 hours , ...... and till this very day apolyton is still for free , .......

have a nice sunday afternoon

	17-08-2003 20:56									#70
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Look, I don't claim to have a unique insight into the owners' minds; all recent posts about possible subscriber benefits were responding to THE OWNERS' SUGGESTION to discuss possible subscriber benefits. Hence your earlier response was, even by your usual standards, stupid.

	20-09-2003 13:54									#71
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avatar was the first thing I have turned off

	22-09-2003 00:14									#72
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How about extra statistics for subscribers? That wouldn't hurt the rest and most people like them. Some possible stats:

- average post length (letters, words)
- timing of posts, most being between xx-yy
- number of threadkills
- average number of responses per initiated thread
- time spent logged on this week, total..
- number of references to poster in threads he didnt post in
- mean time between clicking 'reply' and 'submit' (is it possible? would show who is the slowwit )

Basically, all of the existing stats (number of posts, etc) can be expanded in some way. This could be calculated on request or once in a period of time, if it would be server-load intensive.

	22-09-2003 00:59									#73
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Some of those would be interesting.

	22-09-2003 01:52									#74
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion How about extra statistics for subscribers? That wouldn't hurt the rest and most people like them. Some possible stats: - average post length (letters, words) - timing of posts, most being between xx-yy - number of threadkills - average number of responses per initiated thread - time spent logged on this week, total.. - number of references to poster in threads he didnt post in - mean time between clicking 'reply' and 'submit' (is it possible? would show who is the slowwit ) Basically, all of the existing stats (number of posts, etc) can be expanded in some way. This could be calculated on request or once in a period of time, if it would be server-load intensive.

These are great. I have a feeling that references to poster in threads he didn't post on would be hard to implement, though. But what do I know

I don't see what the last one would be good for. Except maybe for bashing.

As for number of threadkills: I have a feeling that I would be high on this one

Asmodean

	22-09-2003 02:05									#75
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quote: number of references to poster in threads he didnt post in

That woudl be a great option

	23-09-2003 01:39									#76
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion How about extra statistics for subscribers? That wouldn't hurt the rest and most people like them. Some possible stats: - average post length (letters, words) - timing of posts, most being between xx-yy - number of threadkills - average number of responses per initiated thread - time spent logged on this week, total.. - number of references to poster in threads he didnt post in - mean time between clicking 'reply' and 'submit' (is it possible? would show who is the slowwit ) Basically, all of the existing stats (number of posts, etc) can be expanded in some way. This could be calculated on request or once in a period of time, if it would be server-load intensive.

hi ,

, sounds really great , only one Q , can it be done , ......

Markos would love such a thing but with him still a while away , ......

have a nice day

	23-09-2003 01:46									#77
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quote: - mean time between clicking 'reply' and 'submit' (is it possible? would show who is the slowwit )

Actually it would show who thinks most about what he writes

But you cant take quick reply into account here, a feature that I use very often (and just again).

ata

	23-09-2003 01:46									#78
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion - average post length (letters, words)

This one would stop the demo gamers from subscribing

	23-09-2003 04:21									#79
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And me, too.

	13-10-2003 19:46									#80
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Very interesting article Dan. I'd like to see another article on your philosophy re donations and the like i.e. why you aren't comfortable with them. Why you consider this a "venture" rather than a business etc.

Seems like much of the rest of the internet is full of beggars.

	13-10-2003 21:23									#81
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extras for subscribers..

Big Stickers saying "Im a Geek i pay for Apolyton Subsriptions"

or a discounted T shirt

with " I got this for my hard earned cash"

	14-10-2003 04:45									#82
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"All I got from Apolyton was a PCR and this lousy T shirt"

	14-10-2003 20:31									#83
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Another idea, a reduction in the flood control to 20 seconds for die-hard spammer-subscribers

You could also do a "Member of the Day" thing a la Civgaming.net ... something like a "Donor of the Day"

or grant mod-powers for one day in one forum section per dollar donated to apolyton

	15-10-2003 14:22									#84
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As a dial-up internet user, I should mention that if subscribers got bigger avatars thus increasing the time required to download a thread, I would disable all avatars my preferences.

	15-10-2003 16:33									#85
	Increase the size of your Attachments

If I had to pay to come here, I wouldn't come here.

	15-10-2003 16:48									#86
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Do you think that makes Dan and Mark more or less likely to move to subscriptions?

	15-10-2003 17:06									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse If I had to pay to come here, I wouldn't come here.

From what Dan has said, Content on the site will always remain free. The subscription service is merely a financial move that will grant a few yet to be determined features that do not relate to content. Basically a way to contribute to the site's financial help while still receiving value for the dollar paid. That keeps it a commercial venture and avoids any complications associated with accepting donations.

So, Horse, you will always be able to come for free, but will be invited to contribute to that which you enjoy. Not a bad deal.

	15-10-2003 18:02									#88
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Do you think that makes Dan and Mark more or less likely to move to subscriptions?

Do you think that makes you more or less likely to ever to play mp civ?

	15-10-2003 18:29									#89
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If you leave I'd say its marginally less likely, since there would be one less old woman to nag me.

	15-10-2003 19:11									#90
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the fact you've joined the civ mp user group is just a travesty