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Which of the following will be the first to be elected to the US Presidency (Time out:0 days after 01-08-2003, 22:37)
A woman
A non-Christian
A non-White
Someone under the age of 40
A third party candidate
An artificial intelligence
None of these are ever gonna happen
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Albert Speer is offline Albert Speer
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artificial intelligence?! come on... a damn computer? it's not life!

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artificial intelligence?! come on... a damn computer? it's not life!

quote:
A. I. (requires constitutional amendment)


The best supercomputers are already smarter than a bit of Americans. It won't be long until the average computer can hash out even ethical reason and feelings ten times faster than, say, a human could.

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If 'simple statistics' had anything to do with it, the US would have had at least one female president by now.

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mrmitchell:

i'd never let a computer rule over me...

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you'll get a non-white, non-christian before anything else, a jew.

can't think of any women who could ever be elected (and yes that includes hillary ).

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quote:
Originally posted by Albert Speer
artificial intelligence?! come on... a damn computer? it's not life!


this from one who praises tribal africa and gangsta rap.

Inverse Icarus is offline Inverse Icarus
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quote:
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mrmitchell:

i'd never let a computer rule over me...


you wouldn't have much say in the matter, should they get violent

but whos to say they would? this is a whole other discussion

Ben Kenobi is offline Ben Kenobi
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So is an ammendment to ban gay marriages... oh wait




ZING!

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It won't be long until the average computer can hash out even ethical reason and feelings ten times faster than, say, a human could.


Ethical reasoning? Well, they'll never become president at that rate.

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if im not mistaken, Thomas Jefferson was a diaist(sp), which was non Christian

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Seriously, we Canuckistanis need to liberate your country someday soon. The legally-entrenched old boys Republicrat oligarchy needs to go.

Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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ZING!




I fail to see how that was a "zing?"

Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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if im not mistaken, Thomas Jefferson was a diaist(sp), which was non Christian


Hmmm, good point. Deists comprise a good number of Founding Fathers.

However, publicly, Jefferson (and Washington) both payed lipservice to Christianity, so you could say they were "closeted non-Christians." That's not quite the same thing. I think the poll refers to people knowingly electing a non-Christian.

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I see it:

non-white
woman
non-Christian
third-party
under 40

(A.I. is silly)

Anyway, does anyone really think someone that is 35-40 will be elected PRESIDENT? Come on... people would mock him for his lack of experience and his youth no doubt. Even lower 40s is rare.

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why exactly is AI silly?

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'Cause it just is .

I should know silly when I see it!

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'Cause it just is .

I should know silly when I see it!

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I would vote for an AI.

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I vote for Batman.

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Why bother writing an AI that can understand ethics etc.? We need one that can play Civ

Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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why exactly is AI silly?


You don't think asserting an A.I. will beat out any of the other options to be president first is silly?

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You don't think asserting an A.I. will beat out any of the other options to be president first is silly?


if the AI was running on the Republican and Democratic tickets, i think it could reasonably beat out a third party candidate with sheer party loyality.

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Non-Christian definitely. This country will elect a Jew or atheist before too long.


A Jew won the vice precidency in 2000.

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Hmmm, good point. Deists comprise a good number of Founding Fathers.

However, publicly, Jefferson (and Washington) both payed lipservice to Christianity, so you could say they were "closeted non-Christians." That's not quite the same thing. I think the poll refers to people knowingly electing a non-Christian.



If i remember correctly, Jefferson being a deist was common knowledge, i belive he even wrote the deist bible.

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DOMINICK DUNNE FOR PREZ 2004!!

Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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If i remember correctly, Jefferson being a deist was common knowledge, i belive he even wrote the deist bible.


The "deist bible" was Thomas Paine's The Age of Reason. Not anything Jefferson wrote.

You can take a look at Jefferson's public addresses versus his private correspondence. His public speeches have references to Christianity throughout them. While he doesn't necessarily profess to be Christian, he's certainly giving an impression that he is one.

His private correspondence, of course, gives the opposite picture, clearly showing him as the Deist he was. But I don't think Joe Schmoe the Christian voter back in 1804 would know that was Jefferson's belief.

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no Boris... what Flash meant was Jefferson wrote the Jefferson Bible which was a deist version of the gospels (without the miracles, resurrection, and all the other 'religious' aspects)

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no Boris... what Flash meant was Jefferson wrote the Jefferson Bible which was a deist version of the gospels (without the miracles, resurrection, and all the other 'religious' aspects)


Jefferson didn't write that until 1820, well after he was elected President. It wouldn't have had any impact on his Presidential ambitions.

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If Condie Rice could ever run and win, it would be a non-white and a woman simultaneously! Too bad she damaged her reputation by her involvement in the administration's lies. And so unfortunately did Collin Powel.

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has there ever been a woman run for president? a non-christian? an asian or hispanic? and has there been a black man to run for president who isn't extreme (like Keyes, Jackson, or Sharpton)? someone under 40?

really i think the problem is that so few people who fit these categories have even bothered to run... maybe if there were a few more candidates, we'd have had presidents who fulfill these categories

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quote:
Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I see it:

non-white (There are no more C. Powel at the moment)
woman (Hillary would lose, so not in my life time)
non-Christian (No. To many Christian today to allow that to happen)
third-party (Maybe someday, before 2100)
under 40 (Someday after 2050)

(A.I. is silly) Agree

Anyway, does anyone really think someone that is 35-40 will be elected PRESIDENT? Come on... people would mock him for his lack of experience and his youth no doubt. Even lower 40s is rare.
Only Kennedy and Clinton.

 
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