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Originally posted by elijah
Bunkers are better targets for conventional weapons, in case of error, less harm will be done. Also nukes are far, far more expensive.
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I fear, they might use the Argument, that they suspect NBC-Weapons stored within the bunker.
After all AFAIK those Nuclear Bunkerbusters are especially useful in those cases, as the Temperature the Weapons produces burns all Chemical and Biological Agents within the Bunker (at least in Theory  )
But you can be right, if will take some time till the Box of Pandora is opened again. The big question is, how difficult it is this time to close it again.
After all those nuclear Bunbkerbusters wonīt produce Pictures of destroyed Cities and the like (i.e. as long they donīt terribly fail, and detonate above the earth and perhaps level the whole neighbourhood).
So Public Opinion could shift from a "Donīt use these Weapons" to a "What matters, as long as they donīt detonate such things in my neighbourhood".
But yes, to make the first (and maybe also the second or third) step, to get the first mini-nuke detonated, will need a lot of convincing, but it could get easier with every weapoin detonated.
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I fear, they might use the Argument, that they suspect NBC-Weapons stored within the bunker
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In which case, nukes are the last thing they need! Small very low ton nukes will merely send the stuff up into the air, larger nukes may vapourise it, but thats far from reliable, and collateral damage will be a problem. Chemical explosives are more reliable.
Also, most terrorist munitions of various types will not be stored in one place. The logical solution would be to store them in scattered, small locations, preferably in civilian areas. Obviously, nukes are neither a useful or acceptable solution there. To use that argument is demonstrating a fundamental lack of knowledge about their enemy, and what is Sun Tzao's first rule of war?
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Originally posted by elijah
In which case, nukes are the last thing they need! Small very low ton nukes will merely send the stuff up into the air, larger nukes may vapourise it, but thats far from reliable, and collateral damage will be a problem. Chemical explosives are more reliable.
Also, most terrorist munitions of various types will not be stored in one place. The logical solution would be to store them in scattered, small locations, preferably in civilian areas. Obviously, nukes are neither a useful or acceptable solution there. To use that argument is demonstrating a fundamental lack of knowledge about their enemy, and what is Sun Tzao's first rule of war? |
The Argument of those who were in Favor of using such Bunkerbusters to clean NBC-Depots was AFAIR, that (if you have a Bunker which is deep enough below the surface) the upper stories of the Bunker would collapse and so seal the Bunker off, so that nothing from inside the Bunker could get to the outside and everything agents within the inside of the bunker would get burned to ashes by the nuclear Fire.
But yes, that it couldnīt be guaranteed that the Bunker really get sealed off and so chemical or biological Agents could get to the outside was the argument used by those people who doubt that the nuclear Bunkerbuster would be useful for such purposes.
And yep, most of Sun Tzuīs Rules of Warfare have their worth, even today.
As for storing Special Weapins in Bunkers:
Obviously even Sadam has learned, that hiding in one of those large Bunkers is like carrying a large "Please shoot me"-Sign 
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Whaleboy
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And yep, most of Sun Tzuīs Rules of Warfare have their worth, even today
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Including "Know thy enemy"
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I'm not sure where the fixation on terrorists is from
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Public pressure/spin. Telling people what they want to hear. Of course, terrorism is a social phenomenon, of little actual tactical threat, and conventional military tactics wont work, but will you ever hear someone who wants to get reelected say that?
Terrorist arsenals are in garages, sheds, homes, private warehouses etc. Like peoples cars, tools, furniture, appliances.
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08-08-2003 06:06
I wrote an article ages ago called "Thus sobbed Zarathustra" about the death of postmodernism after 9/11 (the rise of neoconservatism etc)... I should have nicked the avatar for pretty pictures!
However, I cant be bothered to get my post count up 
They are dumb too because they are too stupid to know about the minimum mass for chain reaction thing. 
Its global leadership in one voice (PNAC) and world domination by force in... the same voice. 
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