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naervod is offline naervod
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If you are a citizen of a country, then you can serve in the military. In most countries you can qualify for citizenship via jure saguinis ("by right of blood') if you ancestors were of that nationality. For example, I qualify for Italian citizenship (something I'm seriously considering) because my great-grandfather was a naturalized Italian Citizen. There are various resources that you can check to see if you qualify for citizenship

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Yet I'm weary of the Canadian military, and wish to rather sign up abroad if that is indeed an option without previous experience.


Why don't you enter the Canadian forces so that you can improve them from within?

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You can smoke in the longer AIT schools. Usually it goes by what phase you are in. Pass your PT test and you move on to the next phase which allows you to smoke, use chewing tobacco and go out. At least thats how it was in the 90's. My course was 32 weeks long back in 93-94.


It depends on your training station. If they have the facilities to separate you from the rest of the AIT soldiers, you can drink and use tobacco past week 9 of AIT. If not, you'll be restricted to using tobacco and alcohol while on pass. Actually, you can (if of legal age, of course) use alcohol while on pass from the beginning of AIT. Tobacco is entirely prohibited until you're beyond week 9 of AIT.

Anyway, after reading up a bit, it would be quite a pain in the ass to join the US army. First, you have to get a residence visa with sufficient time to complete your enlistment. Second, you have to establish residence. Third, you have to establish a home of record within the US. You will not be eligible to reenlist unless you establish citizenship before the end of your first enlistment.

So, probably not the best plan. Go for the IDF or the FFL.

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I had a friend who was born in Thailand, who joined the US Marine Corps. He had his green card though, which I believe it was you need to join the military if you weren't born a citizen. Your best bet would probably be the Royal Army or IDF.

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I had a friend who was born in Thailand, who joined the US Marine Corps. He had his green card though, which I believe it was you need to join the military if you weren't born a citizen. Your best bet would probably be the Royal Army or IDF.


hi ,

" royal army "

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This is Zylka we are talking about : pensions, health care? He wants action! And guerrillas get the most action. Sure, it is the most dnageorus too, but he is no wimp!

Better yet, become a mercenary for hire! Pay is better, but you still get the booze and the chicks, and drugs as well.


He should join FARC.

Hell, he might even be crazy enough for Sendero Luminoso...

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What about the UN Peacekeeping Teams? Are those worth the trouble?
It isn't like anyone respects them, though.


The UN doesn't have any peace keeping teams of their own per say. Instead they ask member states to contribute forces from their own militaries. Often times if the US or the west wants international forces (like in Bosnia or Kosovo) then they will agree to pay the salaries and expenses for those forces deployed. The Pakistanis and Bangledeshis are well known as countries with excess military for hire because both countries have large militaries which they can't afford to maintain thus they "rent" their excess forces out to the UN.

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I had a friend who was born in Thailand, who joined the US Marine Corps. He had his green card though, which I believe it was you need to join the military if you weren't born a citizen. Your best bet would probably be the Royal Army or IDF.


The US Army takes in lots of noncitizens. Doing so gives them bonus points for their citizenship application so you see lots of people from all over the world joining the Army.

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He should join FARC.

Hell, he might even be crazy enough for Sendero Luminoso...


He could join FARC's U2 surveillance unit for some high flying adventure. All the coke you can snort, and if anyone gives him any sh!t he can point to his insignia and say "Farc U2 buddy!"

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Wow, thanks!

Well I could have used this info a little sooner, I must admit. There's nothing more troubling than waking up in the cargo hold of a Chechyn patrol boat wearing some f*cked up uniform and being screamed at in pseudo Russian to go slit a goat's throat for dinner (without any previous memory of how or why you got there). I'm pretty sure Chechnya doesn't have any bodies of water, either - which made this groggy situation even harder on the already taxed mind

In all seriousness, I am quite considering the IDF and Spanish Foreign Legion now... Again, this is an incredibly short term hell I'm planning, so they seem to have attractive offers. Ermm I'm a little too pressed for time online right now though, can I join up in the IDF and stick to ye old Queen's English?

I would never join the USMC... at least in Haifa I can run some sort of clandestine E operation. The American government will tell you that sugar water eats babies and funds terrorism if people start getting high off of it

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I think there's no problem to join the IDF and speak in english.

I'm not sure if you'll ever see combat though, and what your pay will be.

I think that if you seek pay, IDF isn't exactly the place to go. They expect more ideology or at least some sense of love for Israel.

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Ohhhh really... well I have love for its night life and women, does that count

...and just WHERE would I go in the world, if God forbid "decent pay" were on my demands for lending myself as canon fodder?

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Wow, thanks!

Well I could have used this info a little sooner, I must admit. There's nothing more troubling than waking up in the cargo hold of a Chechyn patrol boat wearing some f*cked up uniform and being screamed at in pseudo Russian to go slit a goat's throat for dinner (without any previous memory of how or why you got there). I'm pretty sure Chechnya doesn't have any bodies of water, either - which made this groggy situation even harder on the already taxed mind

In all seriousness, I am quite considering the IDF and Spanish Foreign Legion now... Again, this is an incredibly short term hell I'm planning, so they seem to have attractive offers. Ermm I'm a little too pressed for time online right now though, can I join up in the IDF and stick to ye old Queen's English?

I would never join the USMC... at least in Haifa I can run some sort of clandestine E operation. The American government will tell you that sugar water eats babies and funds terrorism if people start getting high off of it



hi ,

if you really want to go , write of forum , ......

have a nice day

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I think there's no problem to join the IDF and speak in english.

I'm not sure if you'll ever see combat though, and what your pay will be.

I think that if you seek pay, IDF isn't exactly the place to go. They expect more ideology or at least some sense of love for Israel.



hi ,

what is three years of free univ worth nowadays , .......

the best for him shall be the IDF , or maybe the legion , but you dont get free education there after 18 months of service , .......

the pay in the legion aint that bad , but during the first year you have to pay for your kit , etc , ...... you only start to make some serious money there after 5 years , .....

with us it starts at the first day , ......

not to mention there are some who come here without any english , ......


if he is good and wants to volunteer he can see some action , ....

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Mm.. I believe Spanish Foreign Legion does not exist anymore. And even if it did, I would not recommend it.

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Mm.. I believe Spanish Foreign Legion does not exist anymore. And even if it did, I would not recommend it.


hi ,

it still does , they have stopped taking people since a while , same with portugal , .....

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Yeah, that's what I mean. But even if it did, I wouldn't say it's the place to go....

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Yeah, that's what I mean. But even if it did, I wouldn't say it's the place to go....


hi ,

why not , ........

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Well I don't think the deploy anywhere, and second of all, I've heard from many places that it's not very professional.

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Well I don't think the deploy anywhere, and second of all, I've heard from many places that it's not very professional.


hi ,

you are talking about the legions outside france , are you , ......

cause the French Foreign Legion is modern and very pro

have a nice day

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Yes.. I'm not talking about FFL. I think that is very professional.

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So El espaniard legion wasn't exactly tops, eh?

Am seriously considering the IDF now... but to be honest, I think I'm going to get my pretty little face kicked in and am SCARED

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So El espaniard legion wasn't exactly tops, eh?

Am seriously considering the IDF now... but to be honest, I think I'm going to get my pretty little face kicked in and am SCARED




hi ,

no-one is going to kick your pretty face in , ......

and he who wants to try ,........


scared , well arent we all , ........

be scared for 5% to keep you strait , the other 95% is commen logic and sence , ......

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No. Spanish Foreign Legion does not accept you even if you wanted to go. So, realistically options for you are joining the US military (but you have to be on permanent resident status, or work something else out, which can be possible you being Canadian, maybe I don't know), IDF and the French Foreign Legion. I'm not sure how service in the IDF goes though, you might have to do other things than 100% soldiering. I think you might have to do other kind of service a lot.... I don't know, Israelis can fill in and say how it is, but I believe you are not allowed to go the whole 9 yards.

In FFL you will be signed for 5 years, which is a LONG time if you don't like it, and the pay is not very good considering where you are coming from. If you choose to take this journey, I can give you some links that will help you forward, and there are few forums that ex-legionnaires visit, so you can ask them. I doubt this is what you want though.. but if it's career you want to do, it's good place for you.

And you know.. everyone is scared. Except psychos. You just have to deal with it and learn to perform under it, and you'll be fine.

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Join the Finnish Army. You can talk about the glory days of barely losing to the Russians and only being cobelligerants (not allies, God forbid) of the Nazis.


You could be an italian. They are sorta Finlandized also. And you get good food and hot ladies.

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Do the Brits still have scouts in Arabia?

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Do the Brits still have scouts in Arabia?


hi ,

nope , but they still have *other* certain units there , ........

some are private , ......

have a nice day

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hi ,

nope , but they still have *other* certain units there , ........

some are private , ......

have a nice day


When did the Trucial Oman scouts leave?

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When did the Trucial Oman scouts leave?


hi ,

use any good search engine , .......

have a nice weekend

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. So, realistically options for you are joining the US military (but you have to be on permanent resident status, or work something else out, which can be possible you being Canadian, maybe I don't know),


Unless they've changed something this is wrong. I know of several people who joined the navy in placed like the Phillipines without ever being a citizen or resident of the US. In San Diego much of the foreign born population came to America through the navy.

As far as I know you just have to be 18 years of age, pass the ASVAB, and to be able to crawl into a recruiter's office.

 
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