15-08-2003 06:04									#31
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I say take a trip down to City Hall and tie the knot. While there may be long term expenses, the problem right now is a short term one and it needs to be solved now, or she'll be having even bigger long term expenses.

Recalling the "Marraige: the ruiniation of women" thread or the "Men: Escape the ball and chain" thread, this is the first time I've seen marriage to be an act of liberation. Most interesting.

	15-08-2003 06:30									#32
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What about the online marriage site? You just register your names and voila! You'se hitched.

	15-08-2003 08:06									#33
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hmm, I remember how a friend of mine once got ordained a priest by some online church. (or more specifically, some online church's Java applet). He went around claiming he ould marry people. No one took up his offer so far as I know.

	15-08-2003 08:17									#34
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really i feel for your fiancee... i had the exact same problem and i asked her for help... someone here before mentioned that there's some way to force people to reveal their tax information but i dont know.

	15-08-2003 08:19									#35
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"THE EMACNIPATION PROCLAMIANTIO???" I DO"T LISTN TO HIP HOP!

	15-08-2003 08:29									#36
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The Schnockered Serbian Strikes Again...

	15-08-2003 08:45									#37
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May have found a way around it...maybe...apparently you can fill out the student part of a FAFSA and submit it, then if you petition the financial aid department here they have the authority to give you a pass on the parent section if you can convince them that there's a good reason...and we have an excellent reason.

	15-08-2003 08:49									#38
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Oh, and...

quote: What about the online marriage site? You just register your names and voila! You'se hitched.

What the hell?

	16-08-2003 04:17									#39
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quote: Originally posted by dv8ed May have found a way around it...maybe...

Or maybe not.

It looks like our options are these:

1) Get married. It's not how I would want to do it, or why I would want to do it, and wouldn't be great for a few other reasons I won't get into (nothing about the relationship, just outside stuff), but it's an option.

2) She leaves school. This seems foolish to me. She only has 13 credits left, for crying out loud.

3) I leave school. I've done it before, for medical reasons, and it wasn't pleasant for me. I swore that when I went back, I wasn't leaving without a degree...but, if it meant she could finish what little she has left, I'd do it.

We don't know what to do. I guess I'd take any thoughts anybody has...don't think you're making the decision for me, but I'm certainly open to feedback just in case there's an aspect of any of these that somebody thinks I may have missed. Or for any other reason, I guess. It's Poly, it's not like I can shut you up.

	16-08-2003 07:40									#40
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Are her parents aware of the situation at this point? If not, I would go for option 4) Convince her parents, using bribery if needed, to fill out the necessary paperwork.

If that is not an option, If I were in this situation I would then go to 1) Get married. While I realize it is not a perfect solution, having to sacrifice either your or hers education would suck even more. In any case I would say this would be the first such case in history known on the Internet.

However, I don't know your complete circumstances, so if that's not workable, I would go with 3). I wouldn't completley leave school though, take night classes or something. It'd be for one semester at most, right?

Anyway, you should write a movie script, this would make a great story. I would at least write the FAFSA agency.

	16-08-2003 07:54									#41
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And then the script could fund the school, right?

Her parents aren't going to fill out the paperwork, although we are going to give it one more try. They're incredibly paranoid about the government having information on them...it's one of their more endearing traits, really. But we're going to try on Sunday, I guess...or she is, as I wasn't invited.

It would be two semesters, because she needs to do an entire capstone, which requires two consecutive semesters. But that's still the option I'd lean towards between the last two. I don't know about the first one. Obviously we want to be together, but...it's complicated. The complications will be less shortly, so that will be good, but it doesn't help right now.

	16-08-2003 10:03									#42
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I don't get it.

	17-08-2003 04:44									#44
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Good luck with trying to convince them. There's really no need to be paranoid of the government finding out information now that there's Total Information Awareness. If the gov't wants someone's info it will get it. What is there on the FAFSA that's not on tax forms anyway?

Well, FAFSA's are done by the semester, so why not take off a semester then and see how things are one semester later?

	17-08-2003 05:55									#45
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I still don't get it.

	17-08-2003 08:16									#46
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Heh. Yeah, it was a complete mystery to me what not filling out a FAFSA gains them. It asks for basic tax information, and that's about it. It's going to a federal agency. If you believe that federal agencies are going to share information, who would they share it with, the IRS? It's the same stuff the IRS already has. But apparently, the first time they were asked to fill one out, their reaction was "I can't believe anybody actually fills this out, why do they want to know that?"

	17-08-2003 20:10									#47
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To keep people in government agencies employed by giving them something to do. Why else would the Feds use two forms to collect the same information?

Unless said people don't pay taxes...

	17-08-2003 22:19									#48
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The problem may be that many years back a federal Court decided that IRS records were not to be made accesible to anyone outside of the IRS, so in fact, other federal agencies, as well as state and local governments do not have access to your IRS records. Therefore ths college has no way top verify whether an applicant for aid truly needs it or if the applican is in fact the child of some screwed up wealthy couple who figure that they're entitled to aid juast as much as anyone else. Does the FAFSA form give the college signed consent to gain access to the partent's tax records? Does it require that the parents declare their income with a signed statement making them liable should they happen to give alse information?

	18-08-2003 00:16									#49
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Yeah, they have to make statements about their income and holdings. Which is the problem. I just fail to see why it's a problem.

	18-08-2003 00:49									#50
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All I know is, I STILL can't qualify for FAFSA, because my parents are still claiming me as a dependant (despite having paid income taxes of my own since I was 13 years old, and am now 29). HOW THE FVCK DOES THAT WORK?!?

	18-08-2003 00:55									#51
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What kind of shitty parents wouldn't even fill out an application form for their child? If my parents were like that, I would completely break up any relationships with them and let them rot when they needed help later.

	18-08-2003 01:00									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley hmm, I remember how a friend of mine once got ordained a priest by some online church. (or more specifically, some online church's Java applet). He went around claiming he ould marry people. No one took up his offer so far as I know.

http://www.ulc.org

	18-08-2003 01:02									#53
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Anyone know a good Cult of the Dead Cowest?

	18-08-2003 07:56									#54
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the ULC!

	18-08-2003 08:13									#55
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quote: Originally posted by st_swithin All I know is, I STILL can't qualify for FAFSA, because my parents are still claiming me as a dependant (despite having paid income taxes of my own since I was 13 years old, and am now 29). HOW THE FVCK DOES THAT WORK?!?

How in the hell does that work? Did you code for CtP2 while living in their basement or something?

	18-08-2003 08:54									#56
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No go. The *******s still refuse to lift a finger to help.

	19-08-2003 05:02									#57
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Hire the Mafia.

Actually, I would now go to her other relatives and see if they can convince her folks.

	19-08-2003 06:20									#58
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Well, at the very least, my fiancee is intrigued by the Mafia idea...

Actually, looks like it might be ok. We think we found somebody who will give her a loan with no cosigner. They've said she approved, but we have to fill out the paperwork first, and since I was surprised that anybody would give her a loan without a cosigner (so was the financial aid office) I'm a little nervous until we actually see the cash in her account.

But I'm probably just worrying too much...I think it's finally taken care of!

	19-08-2003 08:27									#60
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Threaten to go to the feds with "everything" if her parents don't cooperate and fill out the damn form. Don't worry about having anything to go to the feds with, if they're (her parents) paranoid they'll think of something.