16-08-2003 13:12									#31
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Cluedo ;')

	16-08-2003 14:31									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Main_Brain Cluedo ;')

Yeah, too bad I've only played it twice... and I was about 6 years old at that time

	16-08-2003 16:42									#33
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Civilization (the Avalon Hill one) is excellent, great social interactions. Another good one is British Rails (most of Mayfairs railway building games are good).


DrSpike,

Ah, but I do play mindless games as well Games such as Kings and Things, Talisman, Dungeon, etc.

	17-08-2003 06:51									#34
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chess is my favorite, by far, but i like D&D, GO, scrabble and stratego also.

	17-08-2003 08:14									#35
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yah

I was refering to the avalon hill one (I like the advanced game better though)

JM

	17-08-2003 16:20									#36
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The original is better for fewer players (3-5)

	18-08-2003 08:57									#37
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two words: robo rally.

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I think you're all sadly mistaken By far the best board game ever is Hungry Hungry Hippos and that is just the sad truth of it. Chess second and Risk third -.-

	18-08-2003 09:08									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger The original is better for fewer players (3-5)

I never play with fewer than 5

Jon Miller

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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller I never play with fewer than 5

Quite a large group you have there. We used to play with 4 or 5.

	19-08-2003 03:16									#41
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I had a gaming group that I got addicted to Civ (although my senior year I did have quite a struggle with the Magic Players (the RPGers were conquored though))

sometimes two games were played in a weekend because so many people wanted to play

Jon Miller
(even though it was often that 9 or so would say they were interested and only 5 or 6 would appear)

	19-08-2003 03:19									#42
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(actually I did play with fewer than 5 when I was young, I just wasn't counting that because I had forgotten it, I have played over 60 games of Civ and won my first game (8-player not advanced) back in '92)

there was a time where I had won over 85% of all games I played, but my senior year of college I played 7 games and I lost all of them (urually by less than 100 points)

there was one 48 hour period where I played 3 games of civ (it was on spring break)

Jon Miller

	19-08-2003 04:32									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us Axis & Allies, but its literally impossible to find anyone to play with. Everyone would rather play stupidpeoplewithnopatience games. Cranium would be my second favorite game.

That's probably because when most people get together to play a board game, they want a fun time, not a game that requires intense learning or study just to get up and running.

Those types of games are for more hard core gaming types, not the casual bunch looking for a fun diversion.

It's just two preferences. That's all. Maybe someone who racked his brains all day at work sometimes wants to enjoy a simpler time at home.

But, to call them stupid with no patience is just blah.

Come on now, this occasional burst of insulting people who disagree or have different tastes in games is getting tiresome.


It's like the TBS crowd belittling those who dare to enjoy RTS games as "incompetent boobs who just can't understand the real nature of gaming as I do".

Get your nose out the air.

	19-08-2003 04:55									#44
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vee - can we call them stupid with LITTLE patience?

What do you guys think about Monopoly? Truly a classic, or it is just 'popular' to consider it a classic?

	19-08-2003 05:18									#45
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Well when your opponent lands on your Mayfair, with a Hotel, then the game is a classic. If you land on Mayfair when he owns it and the hotel, then its a stupid game you didn't want to play anyway.

	19-08-2003 05:29									#46
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Mayfair? What edition/version of Monopoly are you playing? I don't remember that being a property in the US version.

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quote: Originally posted by Verto vee - can we call them stupid with LITTLE patience?

that's better

	19-08-2003 05:48									#48
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and as far as monopoly goes...any game that gives you all that paper money will of course anchor people to it.


And then there was the MAD game based on the magazine. I liked that.


ooops, that's probably just another mindless stupid people game.

duhhhhhh

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quote: Originally posted by Verto Mayfair? What edition/version of Monopoly are you playing? I don't remember that being a property in the US version.

The version for London of course.

	19-08-2003 07:57									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller there was one 48 hour period where I played 3 games of civ (it was on spring break)

Ah, those were the days.

I remembered once I played rogue (the computer game) for a week almost straight, only slept for 12 hours during the period.

Yeah, I know, reckless abandon

	19-08-2003 10:32									#51
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The good news is the Talisman website is now back up.
The bad news is they've lost their publisher and are currently looking for a new one. WTF does a computer-game publisher do??

Talisman is definitely the greatest board game of all time.

Back in the sixties, there was a cool solitaire game called Fall of the Roman Empire. One of the turn phases was the barbarian-bribe phase. You had the option of paying a hoard of barbarians not to move. This did two things. First, a hoard lost lost fifty percent of its strength each turn due to desertions, so the hoard would be a lot smaller on the next turn. Two, because you could somewhat control the location of the barbarians, you could sometimes steer two hostile hoards together, and they'd slaughter each other.

And let's not forget Jutland--although it was too big to have a board. You spread out on the floor with range-finders etc. Couches were peninsulas.

	19-08-2003 19:15									#52
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Simple version: A publisher fronts the money to stop the developer going bust, has controlling power over what gets done, decides if and when to release it, handles the physical production, advertising, marketing etc and usually owns the title. The developer writes the game and gets a slice of the royalties.

If Talisman has no publisher then the developers are not getting paid anything while they work on it. Very few companies can survive like that for any length of time.

	19-08-2003 20:27									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Zkribbler Talisman is definitely the greatest board game of all time.

I am not sure. I had the game and all the expansions (Dungeon, Cityscape, and the other one) and we used to play it all the time. Kinda fun, but British Rails is better.

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Board games are great - too bad they are dying off...

The problem with many of the strategic board games is that they have to be simple enough and easily playable so that they can be finished off in an afternoon. It's just too hard to get a bunch a people to commit to playing an involved game. And computers have really killed the market too.

Best commercially released board game (IMO)
Axix and Allies - it actually got me to start making my own strategy games for my friends. I started with an 2-player expanded Pacific map setup, which led to a bunch of hex-grid multiplayer games that were set in a variety of environments (WW2, Medieval, 15th century Europe, Carribean, and space)

What a blast - backstabbing your friends around a table.

I've heard some good things about 'Settlers of Katan' (sp???)

	20-08-2003 07:21									#55
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It's Settlers of Catan.

I like the first version of Axis and Allies better, which was put out by Nova Games and you got these little cardboard pieces.

	20-08-2003 14:14									#56
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Settlers of Catan is an awesome game but I've played it too much. So much so that I've loaned all the boards to a friend for the last year.

	20-08-2003 19:23									#57
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quote: Originally posted by vee4473 That's probably because when most people get together to play a board game, they want a fun time, not a game that requires intense learning or study just to get up and running. Those types of games are for more hard core gaming types, not the casual bunch looking for a fun diversion.

and youre talking about Axis and Allies

Geez the guys who used to play kingmaker and six fleet and napoleon at waterloo - geez i guess we were really a bunch of wierdos

That is why we needed a strategic gaming club - and at a particularly nerdy high school at that. Otherwise pretty hard to find players. (Of course it was damned hard to FINISH any of those games in the time available at the club, anyway)

	20-08-2003 19:29									#58
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quote: Originally posted by vee4473 Come on now, this occasional burst of insulting people who disagree or have different tastes in games is getting tiresome. It's like the TBS crowd belittling those who dare to enjoy RTS games as "incompetent boobs who just can't understand the real nature of gaming as I do". Get your nose out the air.

Come now. Be serious.

As everyone knows,people who play grognard, historically accurate wargames are superior to people who play "fun" TBS.

And TBS players are superior to RTS players. People who play RPG's are superior to people who play puzzle sytle adventure games. All of the above are superior to people who play Action games.

All PC game players are superior to all Console game players.

And Xbox and PS2 players are superior to people who play Gamecube.

The only people below the gamecube people are people who play gameboy. The lowest of the low is Pokemon.

People who play grognard, historically accurate wargames on boards are arguably superior to those who do so on a PC.

The Sims is a matter of some, hm, controversy.

Now did you get that straight??

Nose firmly in the air, sniffing out heresy.

	22-08-2003 01:23									#59
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Axis & Allies. Its utterly amazing how many people love that game. We just got moved to LA, and someone noticed an Axis & Allies box in someone's packing box.

They mentioned how they loved the game and hadn't played in ages. Within a week we had discovered over 32 people that knew how to play.

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Axis and Allies. And I am just starting to master it (6 years after I first got it) I wish there was a mac version so I could test all sorts of strategies.